Giants vs Patriots Preview - NFL Week 12

In this week's episode of "Giants vs Patriots Preview - NFL Week 12" on "2 Giant Goofballs," Drew and Rob meticulously dissect the upcoming clash between the New York Giants and the New England Patriots. With a keen eye on the statistics and dynamics of both teams, the hosts provide a comprehensive overview.

The Giants, entering the matchup on the heels of an encouraging performance, face a Patriots defense that has shown vulnerabilities, allowing 23.8 points per game, ranking 23rd in the league. Drew and Rob point out that the Patriots' defensive struggles might be a direct result of challenges on the offensive end.

Analyzing the Patriots' defensive weaknesses, the hosts highlight the team's below-average performance against the pass, creating opportunities for Tommy DeVito and the Giants' passing game. DeVito, coming off a three-touchdown performance, can take calculated risks, given the Patriots' low sack rate and interception statistics.

While the Patriots excel against the run, ranking second in the league, the Giants are urged to utilize Saquon Barkley effectively in the passing game. The Patriots' balanced defensive effort, with five players recording over 50 tackles, poses a challenge that the Giants need to navigate strategically.

Shifting focus to the defensive side, the hosts reveal that the Patriots' defense ranks as the second-worst, allowing an average of 14.1 points per game. The Patriots' reliance on passing plays, a consequence of often playing from behind, creates opportunities for the Giants' defense to exploit. The uncertainty in the Patriots' starting quarterback adds another layer of intrigue.

As the Giants aim to secure back-to-back victories, DeVito's performance becomes pivotal. The hosts emphasize the need for a balanced offensive approach, cautioning against turnovers and emphasizing Saquon's involvement. Additionally, they stress the importance of preventing big plays and maintaining defensive discipline.

In their final thoughts, Drew and Rob express optimism about the Giants potentially starting a win streak. However, they highlight the consequences if the offense falters, suggesting that offensive coordinator Mike Kafka may face scrutiny. The episode encapsulates a mix of strategic insights, player analysis, and the trademark humor that defines "2 Giant Goofballs."

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Transcript

Welcome to two giant goofballs a New York Giants podcast are you a goofball that loves Giant football if so sit back and relax as we talk about the team that both excites and frustrates us so much and now here are are your goofball hosts Drew and Rob welcome fellow goofballs to Giant goofballs New York Giants podcast I am Drew joined as always by am me a Happy

Thanksgiving are you rubbing two balloons together what's going on

there it sounds like these things like who did these turkey sound effects well Happy Thanksgiving everybody hope you guys are enjoying the holiday hope you guys are having a a safe and happy holiday there uh hopefully nobody's fighting over politics at The Family Table and all that kind of fun stuff there you always hear those stories yes just watch football and drink guys watch football and drink listen for all you younger people out there with the Boomer Dads Moms whatever that want to get talk about their politics just let them vent and say okay walk away have yourself an extra scooping of stuffing that's how you diffuse that because they just they don't care about the politics they just need to get it off the chest or mashed potatoes especially if you put some something like mashed potato I'm telling you the the key to mashed potatoes and we probably should have put this in one of the earlier episodes but there's two things you can add to it I like put cream cheese in mind cream cheese in mind oh and it doesn't change the flavors the crazy thing it just makes it very creamy I mean you get also cream or no no or here's the other thing you could do and Rob you tried this at my wedding those mashed potatoes had Mars Capone cheese in them oh you had me at cheese Mar well keep mind marscapone is what they use for like canoli and stuff like that so it's not a cheesy cheese it's a creamy deserty kind of cheese but yeah either one of those things will make a very very creamy mashed potato that's enough a cooking tip to the goofballs say I'm a big fan of garlic myself but oh garlic garlic of course I put garlic cloves whenever I make them yeah yuk anyway too anyway back off back off to the Giants here because we got to talk about the big game coming up here because what's more more American on Thanksgiving talking about the Patriots and the Giants and the New York football Giants Gman G alrighty so let's be very Frank here saying that unless you are a fan of the Giants or the Patriots you probably would have no interest in this game whatsoever this is literally the two worst offenses in the entire league going at it in a battle of the somebody might score something and what quarterback will be starting behind this line that's a question mark on one side that's for sure yeah and it's like a soap opera a little bit yes yeah so you just see like one of those like early 90s like you see like Tommy deito with a chicken parm chick C hand Bailey zappy just like catching a ball ready to go yeah I it's it's getting to the point where it's getting a little ridiculous what's going on here with this team overall it really is um which one because both of them I mean it's just like it's it's absolutely ridiculous absolutely ridiculous there so um so as of right now we're going to skip the injury report because there is none yet as we're recording this on Tuesday as record this early so Rob and I can do family festivities and all that kind of stuff here um but tell this if I get a chance to do a Thursday while somebody else is cooking I'll do it my wife us just all the cooking I'm not much of a cooker but if not just go to the Giants website you just Google Giants and P Patriots injury report will come right up Giants are always the one to go to just singing now because some teams don't show both teams for some reason I don't know why the Giants always do giants media does Right By Us in that regard they do wrong by us that medum c they do Right By Us in that one so but a all right let's break down to it's time for what happens when we're on

offense oh yes when we're on offense and trust me we have been rather offensive on offense uh the Patriot defense has allowed the Patriots defense is at 23.8 points per game which is right 23rd of the the league so not very good obviously uh much of that I do believe that was a direct result of how bad the offense is if your offense can't stay on the field that means you what who's on the field your defense listen when your defense has to be on the field for between 35 40 minutes of a football game they're literally on there for yeah 70 80% of the time which yeah allows for a lot of mistakes when your off stand 50% of time allows the defense to say for 50% of time yeah Lo him play a lot better now if you want to attack the Patriots defense though from what makes sense to do that's attacking them by the pass so opponents are averaging 2288 yards per game against the uh the Patriots in the past that's 18th in the league 6619 completion percentage that's 20th so that's not to say that's horrendous guys that's honestly you're talking it's below average yes but this is not like 29th or 30th in the league or something crazy like like you know a lot of the stats are on the offensive side of the ball for him there um good news for the Giants though is that the Patriots are the second worst team in the NFL at sacking the quarterback a 4.86% of pass attempts end in a sack they're also 24th and getting interceptions based on percentage as well so what does that say deido should have some time in the pocket compared to Prior weeks he should have chance to take shot only gonna get two or three sacks gotcha no no he'll probably still get sacked four or five times but this shouldn't be a 10 10 sack or nine Sack or eight sack kind of game he probably will still get still four or five times um you know obviously the big name you look at on the Patriots as far as sacks is Matt judon who's having a down year compared to Prior two years he's had with the Patriots he's had only four sacks in the seasons uh on the season there uh Jawan Bentley uh the linebacker who's also their leader at tackles at 68 has three along with defensive tackle Christian barmore uh nobody else has more than two on the team a team has 19 total on the season guys we're going into week 12 they have 19 sacks that's not good yeah that's really bad it's really low so and like I said not too good on interceptions either um Kyle Dugger from the 12 kids en counting show has lead a team with two interceptions wasn't the TLC Family different Duggers uh but the Patriots only have six interceptions in total as well so you're talking they're averaging less than two sacks and half an interception per game yeah and when you say averaging less than two and a half that's because they had a couple monster games where they had I'm saying averaging less than two I that's what I'm saying like you bring it up but like that's cuz they've they've got they put a couple Goose EGS up where they did not have they put some really bad games up in general yeah remember we talked about before how how bill bellich has L had the worst games ever he's coached multiple times this season this is a really bad Patriots team guys it's worse than the decades Yeah well yeah that me well it's easy to say when you got the kind of History they have there so but this is what I'm saying we gota we're going to take some chances through the air and I don't think that you're going to see DeVito do what he did in N show last week I think that's kind of a fluke thing because for whatever reason the Giants just command the commanders it's just been that way the last couple of years but I do think this is a chance for him to do a couple of good shots down the field take some chances and hopefully get a couple big plays that lead touchdowns because we will need to get a couple of touchdowns probably to win this game like like I'm not saying we have to score 30 points like we did last week we're going to have to score probably

20 we could probably get away with 14 and 17 but 20 would could but yeah could could depends on what we're gonna talk about next yeah yeah I mean and that's what it bowl is down to um well the segue I don't have a segue I was looking for the segue there but you totally you totally Deni me well went on defense we're not we're not we're not done with our offense yet that's why why would I segue to defense we're not done with the offense yet you you forgot about someone who's the best the best offensive player we

have Mr Barkley himself listen the running game we got to talk about here and and that's to

play but this is the one place that the Patriots are Elite and it's the run defense exactly what I was trying to say I expect Barkley to play more as a receiver than a running back I I fully expect a lot a lot of the wing routes and that kind of stuff there so um the Patriots even him line up even having him line it up as a receiver putting Brit in the backfield or whoever in the back field as a blocking uh runningback yeah I would fully expect to see that oh yeah I I do think not saying it's not saying it's gonna have 50% of time but if you see that 5% of the snaps it shows a lot of mixed up look this is the funny thing is the last the last touchdown that Squan had last week he was actually being like double teamed in the actually a third person even moved over to him he Tes he's T he's taking the defensive heat there um but yeah against the run the the Patriots are averaging allowing just 3.4 yards per carry which is second best in the league uh they allow only 97.7 yards per per game in the on the ground which is ninth best in the league keep in mind part of that discrepancy between two and nine is the fact that if you're up you're running down the clock so people are still running on them just for getting the hell out of out out out of Boston basically um but when they do they're not doing very good yeah exactly so um and even tackler wise there there's not one guy we need to hone in on this defense to stop it's it's a team effort on the running game there the Patriots have five players over 50 tackles and not a single one has hit 70 so far this year so you got to expect like I said a team effort to stop the run as opposed to one single star I think this is a game that you're going to do a little bit of Dink and dunk and you're to do short yardage passes and that's going to be a running running game and it's not necessarily just just the bark action Slants yeah it's got to be short passes and slant routes to you know Slayton and Hyatt and uh uh you know especially juandale Robinson exactly who's gonna probably lead the team in catches but not be anywhere near it in yards he's like an extens of the running game at this point the season for some reason I don't know if if the knee injury still like kind of Zapped a little bit of specialness from him right now but he's been good the B he's just not good in the ACT I just think it's the way he's been utilized and the talent that's been around this team when he has been there to play there's not been much yes so they know the last healthy game that one they had coming into this year was against the Lions where he had over 100 yards and two and a half quarters a play so and the Lions defense wasn't horrendous last year it wasn't as good as it is this year with the Lions defense yeah last year it was pretty horrendous they were actually talking about getting rid of Aaron Glenn at some point I I thought they finished in the low 20s in the defense yeah they got better as the season went on but I'm saying the first half of the Year get what week what week 10 11 were kind of their turning point they got much better after playing us we built up their confidence yeah that's what I'm saying like good for something we play them like they they weren't horrendous but they weren't where they're at this year that's all I'm saying and you know he he had himself a solid game and he only played what about 35 minutes of football before he got hurt towards ACL yeah left the game and so excited to see what happens with him for his career I think I still think he can be a good receiver I don't think he'll ever be a top fight receiver but I think he could be a guy that does 600 800 yards the season yeah he's definitely dependent depending if he says a giant or not of course I want him to say a giant but if you put him on Kansas City where all giant receivers go that man's gonna have way more than 600 yards well we shall see maybe one day who knows all right why don't we try this again why don't you ask for Segway hey what's that over there is that a

segue we go went on defense here guys so the Patriots are second worst to the Giants at 14.1 points per game so yeah we're really bad bad guys uh and they're bad in just about every category except Red Zone touchdown percentage which sits at 54.55% and ranks 14th in the league pretty much every other stat you can think of even field goals they're bad at kicking field goals like this offense is just horrendous absolutely horrendous um so the Patriots are primarily a passing team as they do pass in 60.2 n% of passing plays which is eighth highest in the league now keep in mind though it's because they play from behind a lot of times because they're not doing so much scoring so they're trying to play catchup and everything like that a lot of that is that um their QBs and I had to say QBs because they've had two in the in the game so far have combined for 63.6 one% completion percentage which is 20th in the league and they average 199.000 yards per game which is 22nd uh they have been pretty decent though protecting the quarterback uh as the QBs are sacked at 6. 13 uh percent of passing plays which is ranked 15th in the league at that point so they're they're they're an average team at least defending the quarterbacks there's that's a second I guess semi-positive thing for them uh they are very much prone to interceptions though as they throw one 3.15% of plays which is 29th in the league so so expect to get also depends on which quarterback is going to play this year well most of this has been with Bailey z i so with Mark Mark Mark M Jones I call him mark his name is Mark now your name is Mark let's call Jones yeah Jonesy has been uh he's 20 212 of 324 231 yards uh 10 touchdowns 10 reception on the year Bailey zappy has seen a little bit of garbage time in a couple of games because they pulled ma Jones a couple times because he sucks uh 10 of 25 104 yards and one interception and then they also have Will Greer who was a third round pick uh back in 2019 but has yet to take a snap since 2019 when he started a couple games for the Panthers and they very quickly figured out he should not be starting for the NFL teams in general um they Haven a named a starter at quarterbacks but we're kind of giving you guys the information on who they have on the roster there I'm gonna say this I think Bailey zapp's the guy I I think that if they were GNA stick with make this a big

thing yeah from my heard it's gonna be baile zappy I think so I think so I actually think he is the better say that name yeah talk about a guy who like came in decent that but tell about guy who came in decent like M Jones I madean had a decent rookie year for a rookie quarterback and he's just gone down each year ever since that absolutely down I kind of feel bad for the guy I mean it wasn't like they put a lot on his

shoulders well they also did no favors by getting jacobe jacobe Meyers over to uh Las Vegas so they can get Juju Smith Shuster that was this dumb move I never underst understand when they made it even remember we talked about it I I like jacobe a lot coming in free agency I thought that was a good move overall we should sign done good we should have I still think we should have I would honestly listen I'm G about I may get some slack from fans for saying this but I'm gonna say it anyway I would have rather signed him than Bobby O

car as good as bobb's been this year there were plenty of linebackers that were available that are also good not as good but also good that we could have gotten and we could have upgraded two positions to the same amount of money or maybe you just turn around to use the the Darren Waller money instead to keep Jobe Meyer not have Darren Waller there's plenty of options you could it but Jobe Meer should have been a giant if he wanted to be who knows if he wanted to be he may have called him up said I'm not going I'm not going there for all we know that's what happens you know who's throwing me listen I'm leave Boston cuz of passer yeah seriously again you that's a possibility we have to talk about there um because you never know if a team if a player really wants to go ahead and play for Daniel Jones at that point you know I mean people want to play next year for us but then again he went to go play with jimy Jimmy garoo yeah and he's having good season has a second receiver he's having a good season so and not playing under Jim Jimmy

grappolo all right let's let's talk about the wide outs here a little bit for the uh the Patriots here because it's an interesting group and I think it's partly why they're having the issues they're having here we talked about Juju Smith Schuster he was their big free agan pickup this year he's got 22 receptions 149 yards and one touchdown on the season I was would say it's a bad signing uh they got Demario Douglas who is a six round pick this year out of Liberty Liberty we know a lot of good people Liberty Big Time College School Big Time football school there yay Liberty that's where that's where Malik Willis went wasn't it uh yeah sure I want to say what I follow Willis through college right to I know you did career to watch will Lis go right over there it was it was it was Liberty so he would have played with with mik Willis there but anyway he's a rookie this year six round pick he's got 30 catches 361 yards on the season goose egg on the touchdowns Jaylen regular you remember him from his Eagle days two catches 22 yards uh taekwon Thorton is also on the team three catches 15 yards I mean this is where we're at that's how bad that receiver go their receiver core makes our core from last year look good and that's part of the problems they're having on that team really when your six round pick is your leading receiver that's an issue guys that's an issue I mean our fourth

is well but we we knew what who's who he fifth round pick from years ago we knew what he were getting in with him though um I mean it just it is what it is and it's like I know I I feel like they didn't do ma Jones right this on this team I really do I really feel they didn't give him the weapons the opportunity they didn't do the stuff they had to do to get him up and running correctly at that point there um now part of the issues they've had though is they have had some injuries uh Kendrick Bourne who is their leading receiver still for the season is on the IR he's got 46 yards in the season but they do also rely heavy on the tight ends which we know is of course the Giants lovely Archilles heal there always for the last 30 years it feels like we can't stop tight end Hunter Henry's got 298 yards receiving uh Mike ai's got 182 yards and phell Brown's got 170 yards so expect to see them attack us with their tight ends because of the fact that they again have no wide receivers that are healthy and they don't even have a running back necessarily that is a big- Time threat with with as far as receiver I mean rre Stevenson their starting running backs got 229 yards so it's not he's lighting it up either and we all know Zeke from his days in Dallas he's not the star receiver either so they're going to use those tight ends the best they can as they should with that kind of depth chart there um all righty so we talked about the starting running back let's get into the running game there a little bit for him Patriots average just 3.9 yards per carry 25th in the league 94.9 yard rushing yards in uh per game 27th needless to say that's not very good no see had it for the people in the back that's not very good yeah terrible terl even uh rre Stevenson we talked about him as as far as receiving there but he's not been that good of a runner either 126 carries for 482 yards three touchdowns Ezekiel Elliot 86 carries 331 yards and two touchdowns both of them are doing the same average of 3.8 yards per carry not good folks so I think yeah I mean and it's especially you especially got to look at that they give Zeke more of that third down t touches yep more the Red Zone touches so is he playing

better you know and and I look at like I look at this roster and I honestly I just think if we just cover the tight ends we're good I hate to be cocky about it but like if we cover the tight ends we're good they don't have good receivers their running backs are not running the ball officially you know so let Bob carric to sit on the run and let's have some people cover the tight ends and let's just call it a day yeah that's it's it's it's that simple folks you hear that wink you listening up wink is not listening I guarantee you guaranteed this case so all right win let's go over if you're watching this game give us a wink wink and n and the face

cover let's go over our final thoughts here for the game

yes all right final thoughts Tommy DeVito doesn't have to throw three touchdowns like last week but he can't play as horrible as he has week prior he just as silly as it sounds just don't turn the ball over like or keep it to a minimum you're gonna get sacked oh maybe if he Lear throw the ball away against a team that's not very good against a sack that'd be kind of helpful for the rest of the season too yes as I say maybe don't I mean you haven't looked that great in the pocket like maybe step out of it maybe get out of it maybe it's not just that it's just learn that there's an internal clock and if nobody's open within that time frame there's probably someone on your ass you need to get out of there yeah it's it's it's kind of like going to shower in prison like you have a few you have a set amount of time before someone's on your ass and you got to figure out what that time frame is and go do they do they have clocks for that in prison I don't know I'm just I'm just it just seem like it seemed like a normal [Laughter] analogy I don't know uh never yes nor have I nor have I nor do I plan on uh we we talked about the Patriots are a very very good team against the Run so Squan needs to be involved with the passing game again same as he was last week and I do think that dble is getting that part of it going I think that's a lot of him because that's something that's new I think he's becom much more involved with the offense overall because there a lack of trust for Kafka after how this first half of the Season went so I do think they'll keep doing that I mean the first touchdown that Barkley had you know what that was that was that wheel route we've been talking about for ever since Barkley first got here how many years I was say wheel route wheel whack whack whe W weed whacker um but yeah I mean that's the wheel route that they've been talking about ever since we first drafted him and I think that's the first time I've ever seen him run a wheel route for a touchdown I mean he had one he dropped in Tennessee I remember that 100% last said I still remember the drop last year against Tennessee he had a wheel wheel route that he ran perfectly and he just dropped the ball didn't catch it he's wide open again though but that's the stuff we got to do and again he's not I I got to stress this because I think people get upset when I say it but I don't care it's the truth he is not Austin Eckler he is not Alvin Kamar he is not even CMC as far as his catching abilities so you have to understand that you have to put him in a position to catch the ball and help him given that fact that his hands aren't quite as good as some of those guys but getting him in the open field there is no one better in open field than him and that's where his strength are it's not to take it's not to take away from his talent like it's not that he Runner obviously why one of the top runners in the NFL it's just just probably reason why sometime in his life he decided to be a running back and not a wide receiver yes and it's not to very legitimate decision yeah and if you're not practicing that constantly you're probably not going to be talk about practice Yeah practice so yeah like he's got to be in the you have to set him up just about perfectly maybe not perfectly a very very good situation like you said he's not a camar you what it's really scary though like CMC out so Sequon was at what was three games he was out or is it four games three games four games three he's number eight right he's number eight right now actually is right here he's he missed three games because it's eight games he's played in yeah say three and a half right because he left yeah game in he is third eighth in he's eighth in the league still in rushing yards yeah I mean Grant like last year right he was just behind Nick chub for the number one

rusher in the league like just overall yards not he's number number five in rushing yards per game now keep in mind when I say that Nick chub is in that he only played two games oh yeah he was also St uh no Devon H aan has also in that he's only played five games so there's plenty injuries worse than him that are not in that conversation I said I'm just I'm just trying to make sure people understand where I'm coming from it's not that I dislike him it's not that I think that that he's not a good player I just think that that's one area that he's does lack a little bit on his hands there are times he drops the ball when he shouldn't so yeah listen if you look at him as a slay style receiver but a Barkley solid Runner like it's kind of obvious like yeah he's Elite player yeah but you you know what he has in his hands and every time it's not going to be the football yeah but I mean what's crazy though is if you just go based on but he's also got lot receiving yards as well so 651 divided by the eight he played times that now by the 11 he'd be at 895 yards if he was if he was in the whole season the whole season there and he'd be the leading the league in rushing yeah if he was healthy if he was healthy again but I'm just I'm just I'm pointing this out because I just don't want to make it see people think we dislike saquan it's not that we dislike him we listen everyone know Adit his faults yeah that's it it's not to put the players on like every top player has a fault exactly except for me Patrick Mahomes you're definitely not Patrick

Mahomes um anyway on to the next one here so next point is we uh we cannot allow big plays as the Pats don't get in the Red Zone very often but are good at taking advantage of when they do so just stop the big chunk yardage just don't do stupid things and don't allow them to get in the Red Zone basically let them punt punt punt punt punt punt punt punt Punt and they will oh they will I'm sure I'm sure yeah uh I'm kind of curious actually even to see this might be the the the the battle of the two most punted teams in the entire NFL very got be I'm looking I'm actually looking right now to see who leads the league right now and punts not see pting yardage or anything like that just purely on punts um while we're looking that up here while next one I have here about say top five let's let's let's take a look quick quick guess we're g Panthers Saints Giants Pats Falcons okay so number one I didn't guess nope because I have it in front of me I can't guess number one is trying to see my my internet's taking forever to load for some reason corus

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Patriots so yeah that's number one Brian Stonehouse is number number two Jamie Gillum is actually much lower on this list than I expected 1 two three four five six seven eight ston house with nine he's number nine he's number nine Ryan Stonehouse let me see it looks like it's a Titans Jersey I want to say I wish they just put yeah tit Tennessee Titans damn all right Cameron Johnston is on there that's the Houston Texans really Brandon man yeah Brandon man who is actually the Philadelphia Eagles I'm kind of shocked by this all right we're gonna have to go back homework on this later because this is definitely punts after they score touchdowns no no no no what I'm wondering what I'm wondering is is part of it because they just get more offensive possessions because their defense stops people that's that's yeah that's probably what a blls down to I'm kind of shocked I expected I expected Jamie uh Gillum the Scott shamber there to be much higher on this list um because he's got 90 got sorry he's got uh 75 on the season highest is 96 and the lowest is

57 so at least on this first page of people obviously I can go probably somebody got injured and had like two punts in the season but all right anyway next point up the Giants may get to the the start of their first win streak of the year keep in mind we beat the Cardinals then promptly lost again we beat the commanders promptly lost again this is a chance to start a winning streak guys winning streak which is kind of losing draft stock but oh well it is what it is winning is winning I always you know what the more and more I think about it I do want to just win because I know it hurts our draft stock but we have the assets to do it we got the moves to do it we can figure it out and there's no there's no saying that Drake May or or Caleb Williams become studs in the NFL it's not always a dead deal thing so take the win you have the better team here's the last one and Rob I know you're going to disagree with me this one if the offense stumbles stop G football sorry Kafka has to go so the Giants can regroup during the

bye yeah I'm GNA disagree with you we we had a rant on our previous episode about this uh so if you want to hear that rant and you did not listen to the previous episode uh it was a way longer episode and I think we debate about this for like 20 minutes that's what I'm saying I'm not going to bring that one up again I'm just bringing it up as a final thought because in my opinion we should do that and you're en titled to your opinion Rob no matter how wrong it is and vice versa Drew be two jalapenos fire during the by week vice versa no matter how wrong it is it's still your opinion yeah sure uh so according to sports muse.com

currently I was trying to check the when this came up it looks like it's current currently in the 2023 season the New York Giants has punted it 64 times toing 299 yards uh 2,999 yards avering 46.9 points the Pittsburgh Steelers had 59 puns oh I'm seeing the same thing New York Jets had 58 punts Cleveland Browns has 52 New England Patriots 50 so we are both teams are in the top five of pest balls yeah but what makes no sense is that doesn't match the numbers that I found through ESPN so I don't know why that's what I'm saying like this might be punts away because you did not get a touchdown this must be like uh it must be the stats we look for like a punt away because you have failed to get a point oh you know I just realized I was looking at the 2022 list that's why oh okay there you go so the patri are number five and they're the Patriots number five with the 50 puns compared to our 64 and they average 48.1 so they get they got about uh 1.1 uh 1.2 on the hammer there now I will say this even though we're way way high on this list year the same point we also haven't had the bye week yet Hey listen we're winning at something don't look at gift mosts most puns it's not a it may not be a stat you want but it's a stat we have it's just scary especially when you think about how many times we've gone for it on fourth down and not gotten it too think about that for a second I did I just hung my head he could be at 70 punts already at least maybe maybe I'll maybe I'll see the Scottish Hammer at the at the the Pro Bowl this year hopefully he doesn't pull a hamstring it' be funny um because yeah I'm defin I'm definitely into the Pro Bowl I'm definitely giving up on New Orleans I'm not going to go spend all this money to see my team lose sorry I'm I'm at that point but I'll go I'll go to the I'll go to the Pro Bowl pro Bowl's an hour and a half away he he you go well I figure I got to start to figure out yeah see you should fly down and come let's go to the Pro Bowl pro bowl see all the best players play flag

football is this are they repeating what they did last year yes they are I don't want to see that you know honestly I I'm just gonna go I I'll go for the experience I think it's gonna be kind of interesting overall plus if you go to those kind of things there's plenty of people to go there plus uh you know maybe I can reach out to some people see if we can get us some kind of media access yeah I guess there's plenty of people I guarantee will not have someone to send to Orlando for this that have media access I'm also saying that there's a a local Flag Football League that could watch these people play harder football than it will be played in the Pro Bowl uh uh I'm just saying it should it should be fun if you go for the experience you don't go for the actual game itself by the way I had to look it up out of curiosity least punts in the league is 28 with the Cowboys and they have had their

bye yeah well we punted more than twice as

often there's a lot of reasons for that as well it's is are off

yeah yeah I'm just saying bad bad bad all right let's get off our rants here because we're we're we're we're going off the tangents of the game as usual and these people that are watching very nicely they want to go back and drink and spend more time with family so thank you everybody for watching us again have a happy healthy holiday there appreciate you guys listening in and on holiday here and if you're not if you're watching afterwards we still appreciate you either way not quite as much but close it's pretty damn close it's pretty damn close enjoy your wine enjoy the zambuka enjoy the bourbon jooy the wild turkey both the meal and the bourbon we app

ice your zemas your Zas they don't make zemas anymore to they your twisted te's your your hard seltzers you know what I think I saw zema recently listen it wasn't that bad I never I never said the the issue with that

that Zeo is like the original like white claw uh no because it wasn't a orinal no it's not a Seltzer it tastes like an alcoholic vodka drink it was like a vodka drink yeah but that's not what that that seltzers it was like the first White claw I understand but that was the first time it went from like no I've tried these white CLS they tastes drink not all of them that's that's a lie that all them never had one I there's no laws when you're drinking the claws but what but I mean if you haven't if you only had one that's all you know I'm just saying listen if you only have one that's all you know anyway I'm just saying there was a time when there was like hard alcohol wine beer then zema came out where it was like it is like a [ __ ] Sprite in a thing which didn't take first by CL it the same concept and then only now that there's more artificial

sugars and other additives you could put into white claw that's 100 calories and tastes like aspan and then like was like six seven years ago when the na Your Father's Root Beer came around and the the alcoholic sodas became a thing oh that's true now Mountain Dew now Mountain Dew has has a even it's alcoholic that

was so does

Monster they swapped out the caffeine for the alcohol it's ridiculous no one drinks the monster for the

flavor it's ridiculous anyway on that note guys we will see you guys after the game this Sunday we appreciate you guys going through the last two episodes here being recorded I know it's not quite as much fun for you guys it's nice we we we miss you guys too going through the nice live reactions and all that kind of stuff we enjoy that but we'll be back again on Sunday after the game to discuss our latest hopeful victory that point is we're Rob and I are both expecting a Giants win here starting our first streak of the year as always guys like I said we'll be on right after the game it's over oh yeah going streaking through the gymnasium um but we'll be on like I said lit right after the game is over there so as soon as it over go right on to YouTube or wherever you watch because of course we are always live on YouTube Facebook Twitter SLX I almost said Twix Twix yeah we're on a candy bar twitch the left side or the right side both we're not playing politics here and of course about the Twix let talk about we're on we're on my we're we're on Rob's favorite way of watching my oh yes wrong wrong way I'm this way oh that's my side it was show right yeah there you go there you go you got it that's my idea first I have to build it up like Hogan that side yeah oh we can't we can't mention Hulk Hogan right now he's in trouble again oh well I haven't heard anything I don't live next to him like you do neighbor by the way his kid got caught DUI again oh yeah after like he like handicapped somebody like 10 years ago sure sure daddy will bail him out again uh anyway as much as I don't make light of it but did he leave his dad's bar he no I don't think he did he was on Gulf to Bay Boulevard in Clearwater for those who know the area that literally does go to the beach so it's possible but either way it's on him he's an adult so I be thankful yeah yeah anyway exactly so again we we always on the date after on all the audio podcast platforms and all so appreciate you guys listening in as always and as always giant

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