Giants vs Raiders Postgame Reaction Show - NFL Week 9

In the latest episode of "2 Giant Goofballs: A New York Giants Podcast," Drew and Rob dissect the aftermath of the Giants vs. Raiders game. The game was marked by a series of unfortunate events for the Giants, starting with their starting quarterback, Daniel Jones, leaving the game early due to injury.

Tommy Devito, filling in for Jones, faced immense challenges as he struggled throughout the game, which included throwing two costly interceptions. The Giants' offense faced significant difficulties as it struggled to gain momentum, while the Raiders were able to maintain control throughout the contest.

The hosts dive deep into the details of the game, analyzing key plays and moments, while also discussing the implications of Jones's injury and what it means for the team's immediate and long-term prospects.

Tune in to "2 Giant Goofballs" for an in-depth breakdown and reaction to the Giants vs. Raiders matchup, offering unique insights and candid discussions on the game's outcomes and the team's performance.

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Transcript

Karen a [Music] Sharon welcome to two giant goofballs a New York Giants podcast are you a goofball that loves Giants football if so sit back and relax as we talk about the team that both excites and frustrates us so much and now here are your goofball hosts Drew and

Rob welcome fell goofballs two giant goofballs New York Giants podcast I am Drew joined as always by I'm me Rob let's talk about this shitty game I was well that's not how was your weekend before the game rob it was

okay yeah it must be nice I mean I had family in town you know got to see my sister sister and brother-in-law and nephews and all and went out to eat last night it's nice nice little weekend until this [ __ ] show I was about to say until this year show guess what guys 405 on a Sunday let's say it now because I notice we always forget to give the score because we get so pissed off we got shellacked 30 to six guys by the Raiders 30 to [ __ ] six oops I already cursed already it's time to give the warning we're GNA curse guys G to curse a lot if you don't want to hear cursing this is not going to be the episode for you there we've said it I think people should [ __ ] field goals what the no no no no it was we had a touchdown we had a touchdown oh field goals we did get eight touchdown eight touchdown and we we missed a two-point conversion you're right I'm let's let's start the therapy session let's start going let's go time

my yeah this is just like you know I'm getting to that point where I'm almost not even as pissed off as I used to be when we lose now it's like I'm used to it I'm expecting it to a certain degree I'm going into it and I think two years ago I think what just pisses me off is this year I was optimistic and this game even I was like okay we should beat the Raiders at

least nope nope I mean if you had told me couple weeks ago that the Raiders were gonna fire Josh McDaniels they put in uh a guy who's never coached an NFL game in his life they'd pull Jimmy G for Aiden oconnell we'd hold Devon Adams to under 35 yards receivings yards you know of course I'm going to say oh yeah we're going to win that game well every single time well apparently not every single time apparently not not tonight I mean what the hell guys you know and the big story about this is not even the loss the big story is going to be the loss of Daniel Jones who got hurt again in the first quarter I already heard some people calling for D's head basically because it's fault that Daniel Jones is is the you know toughness of a porcelain doll but I'm sorry like it wasn't a neck injury it was a knee injury you can't blame that on dable if anything you know you would think okay Daniel Jones coming back him injury and getting out in the first quarter that that can't do anything worse for his position as a potential future start of this league no it can because you know what it's not just his play it's the fact that the guy can't can't stay healthy he's been hurt yeah every single time except last year we forgot that because he got healthy like one year I was about to say last year everyone talked about how great he was because he played the whole year that's time foret like f f he did

not oh you just drinking a horn I'm drinking out of my horn tonight this is the horn L game he he did not play a whole year until it was like last year no and he did he's now he's hurt every single game this week I this year it's like I'm just he could come back and go back to Daniel Jones he was last year and I'd still be [ __ ] fed up and done I just I can't take it anymore the best availability I said damn it I messed it up the best ability is availability he's never available never I'm done yeah I mean could you could you imagine or Eli Manning or any of these kind of guys going oh let good you know how pissed off they'd be if they were hurt all the time and it's just you don't see I don't know I just I can't take it and I hate to blame a guy for injuries I really do because it's like you're hurt you're hurt hold hold how do you put that horn down where do you set it how do you not spill it there's a stand oh okay okay

B you more badass Fant you're right seriously if it's musical too that'd be amazing but it's not um but yeah I mean it's just like it gets to the point where at this point and we talked about you know the tanking the not tanking and all that kind of stuff listen tank away I'm sorry tank away because we're one game out for being tied for the worst record in the league we need a quarterback we need a quarterback you're not going to get a quarterback by going eight and N guys yeah uh there's no way going 8 n at this point but but you know what I'm saying though like every single game we win at this point is one more game that sets us further back against getting the quarterback we want it's done the season's over guys I hate to say it that way but the rest of this season is assess what you have and figure out who you have to move on from that's where we're at Point

Blank I mean you tell me any other reason to play the rest of the season like this

ego ego that's on them I'm saying as a giant fan what should I wish for oh what you yeah that's different else there's nothing else I need a quarterback for my team the best chance of getting a quarterback and what is supposedly a very rich quarterback draft is for us to lose lose lose lose lose and lose which guess what guys we seem to be very good at this this year very [ __ ] good but I mean that's where we're at you know and I'll say this as well when I talk about this when I'm talking about how pissed off at the team I should I should clarify I am in no way shape or anything else upset at the defense still not even more upset at the defense because you look at the game okay 30 points we gave up that looks really bad on paper but 10 of those points were because of the turnovers the interceptions because we finally did let Tommy deino throw now we found out why they didn't let him throw last week yep so you take those 10 points out you go okay 20 points you you going to get pissed off at a defense for letting up 20 points which the off couldn't get anything going whatsoever I didn't I didn't have the time of possession stats on here but they can't be good they're nowhere near what you want them to be no it's just not good guys you know and again can't be man at the defense I'm not going to sit there M at them been nice to see maybe a sack or two in the game that have been nice one thing we're missing uh but you know we had some we had only one QB hit I mean Aden ell was you know safe as could be pretty much the entire time but otherwise the defense did their job guys if the defense is responsible for 20 points at one point you got to listen this is on the offense you know I mean it's just sad that until like the middle of the third quarter Tommy DeVito had more completions to the Raiders than the

Giants that's that's not wrong sad because it's true that's not that is not wrong guys that's the sad part sad because it's true you know and I I blame this on partially on the Giants organization we talked about this and I was thinking about this a lot during the pregame I really didn't want to put this out into the world and it didn't happen like I was thinking in my he I'm thinking like okay you know what happens if Daniel Jones re-injures his neck or something I wasn't thinking he' have a whole separate new injury but we talked about it last week that it was franchise mismanagement to go ahead and allow your backup quarterback to be a guy you don't trust to throw the ball we did it again and again we needed him and he couldn't do it you know so this is two weeks in a row now a franchise misman management Point Blank there's no other way to word that unless you want to throw some cuss wordss in it this is franchise [ __ ] mismanagement management that's what it is yes no 100% like you didn't think this guy was worthy of throwing a pass in the NFL you you you you sit there you trade for another quarter oh should say trade but yeah you sign another quarterback but you still put in the guy you can't trust to throw the ball which that is his one job that that's his job to throw the ball yep and you can't trust this guy to do it what are we doing you know and you talk about it like they they went out and signed Matt Barkley okay great Matt Matt Barkley sucks he's been out of the league for a couple years let's be honest what he is is out of the league for a couple years but if you trust him to throw the ball over Dan Dano again Tommy DeVito hell [ __ ] I might as well might as well have Danny DeVito as a quarterback maybe go quacking around like the Penguin and scare people and but I mean like if you don't trust this man to throw the ball then get him the [ __ ] off the roster he shouldn't be there if you're quarterback could you imagine a scenario where someone's like oh we're going to keep this backup running back back here but we don't trust him to run the ball he only has one leg you know oh here's this here's this backup wide receiver hopefully he doesn't have to catch the ball he only has one arm but let let's let's see what happens yeah we got this backup kicker he can't kick for a [ __ ] but whatever yeah she only got one leg but whatever I mean it's like can you imagine any other scenario that'd be acceptable so why is it acceptable at the most important position on the entire team cuz flat out whether you want to believe it or not because I know some people that that that'll say oh they're all important blah blah blah Kim kumay no [ __ ] it this is the most important position on the goddamn team and you added to be backed up by a guy you do not trust their throw the ball and then when you finally let him throw the ball you find out we find out why you don't trust him because he throws the wrong team this is not a guy that should be on an NFL roster I'm sorry he needs to retire now hang it up maybe congrats on a great career Tommy DeVito you're done maybe he just understands the the jersey and now on top of it you know we don't know what's goingon to happen with Daniel Jones he's he was out for this game obviously from the injury but usually when you're taken to the T taken to the back and then called out for the day that's not a good sign for coming back quickly y I'm sorry I'm calling it again I called it last week again I'm saying it he's not a great quarterback but it's time to go ring ring Carson

Wentz he's not great he's the best available free Asian one so you know it's just I I I just can't take it anymore I can't it's I'm at that point where it's just like you know add like 30 void years onto Daniel Jones's thing and spread out cap hit let's move on I don't know how you do that necessarily I'm not a capologist godamn it but I'm just I can't take it anymore way more grace I [ __ ] can't take it I you know and you know I think it's worse to see a team that's been playing really crappy go against us after making decisions and changing things around new quarterback new coach new OC and all of a sudden they're sit there're celebrating while they're stopping on our quarterback back's head because God forbid we could block again you act like we could block all year but you know part of it is again and I'm I I blasted Daniel Jones for this I have to blast also um you know Tommy DeVito for this as well even though it's more acceptable out of a rookie quarterback who quite frankly shouldn't be in the league but there was a definitely a few of those sacks at the very least a few were on DeVito because you had to throw the ball away we had to move away from the pressure he's just like like everything else he's not good at that are you trying to say that our quarterback play has been under pressure I'm saying our quarterback play sucks and our quarterback not had good line play to protect no but again there when you are a quarterback you're going to face pressure but when you turn around and run to the next guy that's not getting out of the pressure you know when you go when you're five five yards deep from the line of scrimmage you go three yards up and get tackled two yard shy that's not good you're supposed to throw the ball away supposed to move out of the pocket to throw the ball away that's what you're supposed to do he doesn't have the ability to see that and you can tell he's getting hit and taking sacks and things he shouldn't be taking sacks on you know it's just it's it's utterly ridiculous this whole this this season has gotten ridiculous but so ridiculous it's just I I I it's like you gota like just throw the white flag at this point it's like tank time it's tanking time Thomas the Tank over here I mean it's just like that's where I'm at it's it's tank it it's tank it a tank tank you know because what else I said we have no chance of making the playoffs now I'm not even sure if we're mathematically limited but we probably are uh I'm going to say we are yeah I'm gonna say we are because the chances of us beating every single you know every single game so we're two and seven yeah mathematically we're out of it no not mathematically out of it yet technically we'd be 10 and seven if we won out the rest of the year but we know it's not going to happen yeah we know it's not going to happen we're not going to make the playoffs we're not going to make the playoffs and I don't give a [ __ ] where we end up I really don't there is no award for barely missing the Playoffs ask the

Lions I mean they look pretty good this year so but there was no award they got last year so you know [ __ ] it lose every game guys let's go two and 15 let's go for it two and 15 I want to go two and 15 I don't want to either but it's better than going you know eight- n and missing out on a good quarterback Let's Lose let's keep about losing who's on the lose train we might be tied with Panthers is the worst team in football well the Panthers are morons they have their own draft pick freaking Bears got two draft picks like that can't believe how lucky the Bears are to have that that's Insanity absolutely Insanity as bad as they are this year it's like you know part I think what get be so pissed off it was I don't know if you got a chance to watch the uh the the Bucks and the uh the Texans but that's part of what pisses me off is is you got a quarterback like that comes out of his rookie guns of Blazing 450 yards five touchdowns um gets the ball back down by you know down by a score with 30 seconds left and leads his team to a victory I mean I want that that's what I

want ask is it asking too much it might be at a minimum can I ask for a quarterback and throw the [ __ ] ball to a wide openen jayen

hayatt because it was both quarterbacks that left him sit there going I'm over [ __ ] here wide open I'm right here he practically had people lining lining up with like those those like things they hold their hand at the airports when they're trying to like show a plane where to go like multiple times he's Wide Open No One near him you know it's it's it's just absolute [ __ ] Jaylen Hy Point Blank should be lighting up the NFL as being like the most exciting rookie coming out of this draft because he's open that often that's how often he's open instead we have to watch there watch him with terrible quarterback play it is God awful yeah it's just absolutely pathetic you know and Evan Neil's hurt again you know he's had to flip burgers with his left hand now or something I don't know he's just like he might as well stay out I'm done with him too we're talking about like terrible quarterback play I'm I'm done with terrible tyack of play you know what though here's my thing I'm done with him a tackle and we talked about this earlier I don't want to see him a tackle anymore but I did want to see him at guard I want to see him get healthy and play guard and see what he does but just so I know what I got you know but it's just like it's uh it's like everything that possibly could have gone wrong for the giants has gone wrong pretty much everything did so yeah it's just it's it's got to that point where I'm numb to it I've accepted this is what we are we're [ __ ] and we I think we got the Cowboys next week you going play the Cowboys with you with Tommy DeVito michah Parson started licking his chops I'm just hoping it's not 40 to nothing again it's it'll be look I'd be glad if it's 40 to nothing at this point both because it'll help us get the draft pick and it's not 50 to nothing or 60 to nothing I mean I'm okay with 21 to nothing man you don't have to to 40 yeah gez it's GNA get to that point though and I hate to ever get to that point but I'm going to get to the point where I'm going to start rooting for the other team because I want the pick I need the quarterback and I hate to ever have that mentality I really do I hate

it but it's what's best long term for the Giants is to lose and get the quarterback they want regardless of who it is I'm not going to you know I'm not going to say one particular name I know everybody's probably thinking Caleb everybody thinks that's you know I I don't know if he's the answer but once again listen he's got to be better yeah I mean [ __ ] we got three quarterbacks who can't play as as solid as one star quarterback this year so H it's almost to the point where like we maybe we can go and say hey is is Desmond Ritter available he might be

Improvement and I been bashing that guy all year mitu garter mitchu might be an improvement a garer m shu is an improvement not Mike he is an improvement Point Blank and he is I'm telling you right now the most talented second stream quarterback in the league I don't know about that I have to think about that he's definitely a very good backup I don't know if I'd say the best I'd have to really think about that but I mean look what we have going at Okay so here the top here's the top quarterbacks we're talking about here okay Caleb Williams is obviously you know number one on most people's boards again we haven't Rob and I will figure out ours postseason we might start giving you guys some coverage on these college quarterbacks just because that's what we have to live for now but he's most ev's big board he's number one Drake may you got from North Carolina B Nicks from Oregon Michael penx Jr from Washington JJ McCarthy out of Michigan and shador Sanders out of Colorado that's your big six we're looking at as far as quarterbacks now Sanders will probably stay in college of the year because he's making a sniky load of money in nil so and the big two you're looking at is Drake May and Caleb Williams guys if you want one of those two you're not going to be able to do that from the 10th position you got to do that for one of the top three or four picks and hope that the second one's available because whoever has the number one pick is probably going to take Caleb

Williams time to lose probably I mean you gotta figure what the Panthers got the one and two pick uh no no the Bears do oh sorry yeah PA yeah yeah Bears have one Pi because yeah you know it's um it reminds me of of a uh quote from reys Bobby father of legendary NASCAR driver Ricky Bobby if you're not first you're last it's time to be last guys we're not first it's time to be last shake and bake it's exactly exactly because it's time because if you want to if you want to really get better you know we're not going to do it by keeping Daniel Jones as our starting quarterback we're not going to do it by having schlubs at backup like Tommy DeVito we need a legit quarterback we don't have a single one in the roster the most important position is our weakest position that's not good guys that's not good so um let's talk a little about the game itself though we should instead of just bitching about it forever as much as I love bitching about it we gotta we gotta give kudos to where we can give kudos so um I will give kudos to saquan Barkley uh who ended up uh 16 carries 90 yards the 5.6 yard average there that's a good day running the ball um on top of that had three catches for 23 yards so I'll give it to sequan that's a good one yeah um let's give to slain too 59 uh 59 yards for catches exactly Slayton did good I thought Daniel Bellinger um getting three catches 43 yards um caught every single time he was targeted uh again a good good day for him you know trying to fill jiren Waller shoes there um ju he had a he had a touchdown so I guess you gave it to him for the get a touchdown but before for this uh for this game this terrible terrible game but like yeah he had a 35 yards four catches for he averaged 8.8 yards and a touch so I'll give it to also Jaylen hayatt because if he had a halfway decent backup quarterback from the Canadian Canadian Football League he'd have over 100 yards actually thr the goddamn dude I'm telling he was did you see that first one especially that Daniel Jones missed him on he was wide the [ __ ] open like how do you miss that it's like playing a game of catch in the backyard wide open like that was used to be Daniel Jones's thing was that deep ball what what where did it go it's like playing catch with your kid and like get pass to each other and all a sudden he just throws you a big old bomb and and then your your kids your kid's like all pissed off at you because you can't throw the ball properly yeah well I was going to say the kid can't throw it to me but yeah that's fine I'm using the other analogy since Daniel Jones has been of the league now going year five and Jaylen H's a rookie so using the other route um so you know we'll give it right here Dad right here I will give kudos I will give kudos also to Xavier McKenna had 10 tackles in the day leading the team uh Deontay Banks also he did have one or two plays that he made some mistakes on but overall he had a pretty good game uh listen again we talked about it before with uh you know uh Devonte Adams anytime you hold Devonte Adams to 34 yards on four catches you did something right um so Deontay Banks had a pretty good game there I thought uh Bobo K uh Cordell flat didn't have a bad game no yeah had a good game had a bad game Bobby O car had seven more tackles on his way of breaking the Giants um single season tackle record because he probably will break that this year if he says healthy uh which means he probably won't be healthy the whole year because that's the giant way [Music] calling it like it is man call it like it is but I mean yeah I mean so I don't want to be said all negative a lot of the positivity really goes on the defense though because the defense I really didn't think again 30 points it looks bad on paper but when you're being you know thrown out there left and right because your offense can't get a drive going and when you're getting put in bad positions because you're throwing two interceptions the defense honestly did not look so bad and what was it with with the [ __ ] announcers kissing Josh Jacob's ass am I the only one annoyed by that [ __ ] finally runs more than 25 yards I mean don't get me wrong he didn't have a bad game and I know he was going to hit 100 yards until that last tackle for loss took it back but at that point but 26 carries 98 yards that's a 3.8 yard carry average don't get me wrong that's not horrendous but that's not kiss his ass numbers no I heard much more positivity about him than about saquan who almost was two yards per carry better yeah Josh Jacobs had the utility yards if you will like he was he was the guy that you just they just kept giving the ball to yeah so yeah he got 98 yards but like once again it was a volume day yeah you can't that's a volume day I mean I just to me I look at that and go not that good I mean granted it's one of his better performances of the year but does not say much he had one game he had negative two yards yeah that's what I'm saying you

know he have what one game over 100 yards this year uh I think this was I think this was going to be his first until that happened oh yeah so you know so I mean like I said that's that's that's where we're at there basically so so real quick let's let's let's pay the bills and let's start going through some of the comments here so everybody's been pretty patient we got a lot of comments we want to read them all real quick so let's pay the bills real quick first enjoying the show looking for more goofball action consider a membership at buy meac coffee.com two giant goofballs membership start at just $5 and give you additional goofball access onetime support payments also available starting at just $3 buy me a coffee.com two giant

goofballs alrighty let's go for it here Deb starts off with saying [ __ ] on a positive note not having GNA in the game did not hurt us yeah uh Connor says that's the wrap of the Season we are pathetic and now Daniel hurt even more WT [ __ ] how can they not have better plays do like we did as kids get away from your guy and catch it here's the thing again I don't think the plays were the problem for a good amount of this guys there was again how many times that it was Jaylen Hyatt wide open the problem is we have horrible play at the most important position in the game that's what it boils down to uh Connor says congrats to Antonio Pierce first game and a winner against his old team I guess congrats to him I guess we can say that uh he also says Eli what the [ __ ] get off your ass and get down there and play yeah Eli's done he also says [ __ ] Fred Flintstone here drinking from a horn listen you leave my horn [Laughter]

alone and then he says did we get the first pick in the draft yet no know games you look at the NFL standings overall and and I'm not going to go into tiebreakers because there's so many freaking tiebreaker [ __ ] scenarios it's not even funny I don't pretend to know them all Patriots two wins they're the worst team in the AFC the NFC us with two wins the Cardinals with two wins the bear sorry the Cardinals with one win the Bears with two wins and the Panthers with one win so right now we're tied with the um the Bears and the Patriots for third worst record in the league so it all depends on how the tie Breakers go as far as that um I said I don't know the tiebreakers I'm not going to get into that that's too early the year to get into that a week by week basis but so we're top no matter what we got a top five pick right now guys and that's what you need to even want to sniff at getting a Top Flight quarterback a top five pick and maybe give up a little sudden extra if you want to get the first pick of the draft or the first pick that you want because let's be honest here the pan Panthers and the Bears yeah go Bears the Bears have both their picks guys they have two top five picks it's going to be hard to beat them out for the quarterback we want Caleb's probably going to be a bear unless they start winning what's going to happen probably not unless somebody BEC get somebody outright owns that first overall pick and needs a quarterback because the Bears would be smart and probably trade everybody just to get them um Conor says trade saquan he deserves opportunity elsewhere trade deadline is passed cannot trade him and he already said he doesn't want to go anywhere so yep he wants to Bleed Blue Dev says couple more games Conor we will have first pick be patient I don't think Connor has patience I really don't nope I think that

uh uh Conor says LOL Deb especially now that Daniels is out hey Drew at least he got some passes out there they missed easy catches who who I think he means two said of said who in there unless he's talking about little cindy Who from Whoville I think he's calling you ho oh he just said he said two afterwards but yeah ho yeah well listen guilty of charge uh T says get rid of Neil useless again I I I would love to see him still play guard see what he can do there but yeah overall he's not going anywhere anytime soon we we've mentioned this before as far as how his contract is because of the fact that he is again a first round pick so hypothetically let's say we we don't pick up the fifth year option which would make sense if you cut him next year he counts 6.7 million against the cap okay you cut him next year the dead cap hit is 14.5 we lose 7.8 million he's a giant next year folks if you cut him the following year seven .8 million his dead cap would be $7.8 million so we can cut him after next year if we want to just break even but why would you something really bad would have to happen I think he's going to be riding the bench for the next two years to the backup yep we'll see my dad chimes in says no sacks again today for our defense unacceptable yeah like I said that's the one knock I will say is they let a a guy who's in his game starting ever get way too comfortable back there it would have been nice to see a little more you know hits than or something yeah so and it can't just be Tibido guys because I know people probably thinking Tibido because he's been the guy he was going to this game number three in the NFL and sacks Tibido is doing a job guys you cannot count on one person to go ahead and be your entire you know passing uh Rush at that point it just doesn't work that way sexy decks where where's Z oari still in the IR he's G he hopefully coming back next week and maybe we can do something there at least with that part of the game um Sirius wasp says who is making the decisions over there for real and I think and wasp people to tell me if I'm wrong in this I think you put this comment when I was saying about you know having once again second week in a row having a useless backup quarterback um that's going to be a Joe Shane Brian dble kind of move and I can't say who has the final say or if they were in agreement on that decision I will say this I think a good amount of that decision does come by the fact that we have no money there's no D there's no no money at this whatsoever you know I was hoping when we traded away lard Williams originally that we'd have some cap space from that but no we paid for all a salary to move him and I'm not upset that we did that because we did that to get the um the better pick the second round pick and the fifth round pick that's it's a good pickup for L Williams but we don't have money to pick up players now guys that's the problem running into that's an issue and yeah there's no there's no fixing that wi uh Raphael what's up man he says hello everyone salute he's all he's all happy probably he's all happy they won congrats Raphael it's like Sleeping with the Enemy he was all here my dad says DJ is probably done for the year Tyra has out at least three more games and probably more and we have maybe the worst and most unprepared rookie quarterback any NFL roster yes that's it's pretty accurate statement there um it's almost like if there was this this this Duo of goofballs who have been recommending we draft a quarterback in the draft and had spent some time scouting the late round picks looking for people to draft I wonder if there was two such goofballs like especially if they were like giant goofballs these guys like maybe if they had recommended a guy from Shephard for example I don't know I don't know I'm just saying I think that somebody probably probably did that yeah in fact I'm pretty sure they did I'm pretty sure they did like you said it's it's just and that's the problem I have with it I think to a certain degree is because I know that you and I saw this problem as a potential issue going into the season and again not saying Rob and I are idiots because we're not we're not idiots we definitely are but the fact that no but I'm saying if we could if we saw this potential problem you bet your ass Joe Shane should have [ __ ] seen this problem

where was the work on doing it where was the work on fixing this problem because I just I don't see it at all I don't you know and instead what I do see is I see other guys like Aiden oconnell who faced today from from the Raiders Tyson bent from you know the Bears at that point guys with late round quarterbacks that are doing something and don't get me wrong I'm not saying any of these guys going to be great quarterbacks I'm this isn't me talking about you know bent oron as being the next Tom Brady but I'm still saying you can get a guy who's a smart football player in these late rounds who could be your backup quarterback potentially be a good cheap backup for years you know you know you at Tyson badget against the uh the Saints this this this week here had a pretty bad game 18 of 30 220 yards two touchdowns three interceptions that's still numbers we'd kill for most weeks about say way better than toito you know you look at you know obviously Okana we played him 16 to 25 2 to nine yards much

better it's it's just something that we got to figure out here guys we cannot go with having these subpar quarterbacks and expecting them to win it's not going to happen uh Deb says hey Raphael congrats to your team they did deserve to win good luck moving

forward and Connor says no reason to get good QB now get first pick there's no good QB out there I said if there was a good QB he'd already be signed you just want one that can at least run a somewhat functioning offense yes that's all you want um Dakota says 8- one he's bragging about his team winning um how about 4- one Dakota like four rings to one just saying still matters still matters like pretty bet Eagles are still in the ring Celler of the NFC East uh de says Conor's right leave D Vito in so we can

tank oh my God it'd be funny uh Conor says it's just sad I know so many Eagles and cow puke fans I have to deal with thank God we've won Super Bowls but we consistently suck consistently even last year's playoff team doesn't help yeah uh de says I'm with you drew and I think that again correct me if I'm wrong I hate that's what I hate about reading these comments so Le sometimes like I hope I'm not wrong at what they're saying I don't want to put words in people's mouths but I I'm assuming she was talking about the whole tanking thing there's no reason to win anymore uh it's true um be what's up says uh first of all get a coach that can call plays I'm not talking about the head coach I'm talking about the OC uh you I've seen a lot of comments on that and honestly I don't know I I feel like the offense is so inept right now and the quarterback plays so horrible I don't know if I can blame the uh the OC at this point I don't know if I can I really don't is it his fault that he has crappy quarterbacks is this his fault that half of his line is is it his fault that that his offensive line can't stay healthy is it his fault that it is his fault that his offensive line can't block but I'm saying at we do

have we've we've talked about this and AUM we do have talent not the best talent we have we do have Talent better than some in an NFL but we have the worst line in NFL like yeah we can blame on offensive line like we just can't go out there and just have bodies not doing anything and that's what is happening with that offensive line but we've had Andrew Thomas who finally came back to play this week and had been injured up until the first since the first week you got JMS Miss some games Evan NE missed some games uh bres missed the game we talked about this you said it we we talked about this in like we had you know some people come in they look better you know tyde looked better because he had some healthier yeah old offensive line play but no I said he looked better because he can read a defense better for the record tou sh I'm just saying I don't I'm not blaming him on poor offensive line I do think some of this is bad Talent overall I really do definitely is you know but the big thing is if you don't have a quarterback you can't run an

offense that's what it boils down to in the

end so let's see be says if I have a high pick I'm not drafting a quarterback I'm trading for as many picks I can get we need pters uh we need pters but again if you don't have a quarterback you're going absolutely nowhere in this league it is it's too important a position if I have let's say for example we end up I don't know let's say the number four overall pick I just I'm throwing a random number out there and there's a quarterback available that that we like and and I'm not going to say a name because there's so many names out there it's too early but let's just say we have a chance to get a quarterback we like if you think this is the guy playing the most important position on the entire team you don't get to pick that low very often hopefully knock on of w you don't get to pick that often that low go for it get the quarterback now if you don't think there's a quarterback that's worth that pick and somebody else wants to offer you a whole ton of picks for it by all means do it it's all based on what you think of the player that are there in front of you if you think a great quarterback is there take him because that's what your job is to get that quarterback as a GM as as as a you know architect of a franchise you have to do that you have to get the quarterback that you like so go for it um my dad says I don't want any NC quarterback and yeah I mean I'll be honest T Hill quarterbacks have not exactly been the best looking at you mitel trabis um but yeah uh Conor says saw Caleb Williams big baby on field he was crying needed to be held we need a leader not a baby that cries again I haven't I I don't I don't front in the fact that Rob and I do not watch a lot of college football during the season we watch it afterwards we start evaluating talent so we'll take a look um drum recovery Network as a Raider fan your boy bad dog who bailed on his postgame show said Waller was going to be to make your offense dominant I said if he can stay on the field oops Yeah I mean listen we all we all kind of drank the Waller Kool-Aid this off season that's that's it's a it's a very very very legit statement to say we all thought Waller was going to be dominant because he the Giants were the Giants were were talking about the whole entire time and you know what it's partially the press as well you know the Giants reporters and I'm not going to name any specific names because they were all doing it Waller looks dominant Waller looks amazing no one can guard Waller Waller Waller Waller Waller wall wall Waller they were even talking about oh one point they took Waller out just so Daniel Jones had to throw to somebody else I'm telling you like if they had kissed his ass anymore they would have not known what he had for breakfast they would have known if he was breastfed or not like holy [ __ ] they you what he ate last night yeah I mean but they we all fell for it we all did that's including us me and you talked about it too we're like oh like all excited about it like this is going to be great you know yeah we also talk about like him staying healthy as well oh I we did we did we drank the Kool-Aid saying like hey like he's gonna be a weapon he's our wide one as a tight end but he's got to stay healthy yeah yeah but we definitely drink the Kool-Aid saying whole postseason uh offseason saying he's going to be our number one receiver and he has been our number one rece receiv in all fairness we were right on that part there but you know if you look at his but if you look at his numbers you know I mean besides if you want to say the Washington commander game was he really dominant in these games 36 yards against against the uh Cowboys 76 against the Cardinals 20 against the ners 21 against the Seahawks 86 against Miami 43 against Buffalo 98 against commanders four yards against the Jets obviously he out for most of the game against the Jets I'm just saying supposed to have a one FR all those numers all of them it's not Tyreek Hill here I'm just saying well Tyreek Hill two not a one he has a two in front of both of those I'm just saying when you have when you have eight games into your season okay which is you know for all intense purposes half a game and you have one two three four that's have seed sorry five of those games under 45 yards it's not dominant terrible it's not do I was say terrible it's listen he was on Pace to do 750 yards or so that's not bad from the tight end position it's not 750 800 yards like that's what he was going to do if he was healthy all year based on what he was doing that's good it's not dominant it's not ground breaking he's also supposed to be wide one so he should definitely have over a thousand if that was the cas but you're right as a tight end position 750 is pretty good but if you're our number one receiver we like to see over a thousand yards just saying we haven't had one forever in those haven't had one of those in forever yeah obj yeah Conor says there's nobody as bad as us we will get the first pick don't you worry uh listen I don't know if you've seen the Panthers play the Cardinals Panthers we we've seen the Cardinals we beat them yeah um that's why I'm say thir third fifth F pick I think is where we end up probably um you know even the Bears I mean listen Bears have spent a lot of money this off season but they've bad so bad see Conor says Bears Thought Justin Fields was answered too they shouldn't get Caleb get Michael penx Jr see they should have got uh should have given gig to my boy Alec mcot well you in this guy who's this Green Bay kid he likes so much right every episode I I I honestly don't even know I think was he was like XFL guy or something I think right let's see we're GNA look up Alex here yeah he's 27 years old 27 guys yeah not so good um yeah he would play the usfl last year for the Birmingham stallions yeah uh uh I don't think yeah I don't think that's the guy Conor sorry all due respect I don't think that's the guy uh let's see uh Brian St says start from the top down meas are not exempt this is terrible Ben madoo Pat Shermer and Joe judge twice we deserve more we just definitely deserve more I think honestly I I think this team as a whole needs to do something to thank the fans and I don't mean a medium Coke I don't me a medium coke uh I think they need to do something for the fan base as a whole to get us to feel like we're appreciated because I don't know about you guys but I'm just [ __ ] sick of these shitty teams I really am and I'll still keep on watching I'll still keep on watching I'll still keep on supporting we'll still keep on doing the show obviously like none of that's going to change but you know I'll tell you this I will not put a [ __ ] dime of my money into Mara's Pockets I will not buy anything Giants related that's going to get the money I will not you know obviously down here Florida it's a little more difficult but I'm not I wouldn't go to a game right now you know if I go to a game I actually might go to the one New Orleans still but that's not going to be going into mayor's Pockets that goes into the Benson's Pockets I think it's the Benson's the family that owns Saints I think so yeah I know I know the old guy used to was Benson before he died um you know I'm not gonna I'm not going to enable this situation anymore I just I think that's what we need we we got to we got to go ahead and send a message to them that we're done the Giants fans were pissed you know we did it towards the end with judge and it mattered that's why judge got fired and I'm not calling for D to fire don't misread that I don't want to see another scenario where they think it's okay to put on a shitty team because we keep on putting giving them money because that's what they do as as owners they care about their pocket it's a product for them yes it is is a moneymaking thing so if your team doesn't play well people people don't go to the game people don't spend money on the merchandise y sit outside steam like this yep and if you're a seasoned ticket person and you have seasoned tickets show up show show up in a paper bag do a little New Orleans ANS there you go something's got to get done you already spent the money you might as well go I mean I'm not crazy you already spent the money go go have some barbecue on the parking lot and go put a paper bag on and go inside tche a blue paperback of course of course the blue one can't score another team yeah guyss my dad says we need a different offensive line blocking philosophy because whatever they're teaching doesn't work we need we need a different coach that's exactly what I was saying before we need we need a new coach I mean but I think that Mike Munk is the guy that's the guy that they got to open up the check books like I don't care what it cost we're getting this guy we're getting to come out of retirement and fix this [ __ ] once and for all and make sure he's got a good assistant but beneath him that can learn from him and eventually take over so we don't have these problems going forward because mun retired right now he's chilling at home he's not GNA coach for long if he does but someone's got to fix this [ __ ] uh Deb says combination a batt o line a bad quarterback equal equal [ __ ] regardless yes you know you're 100% right um she says will Levis is another late round quarterback that's looking pretty good he was I believe a second round pick so I don't know if I call him a late one he was first round late in the second round right he what was that he was late in second rounds he was I'm trying to look here to see uh 33rd pick so yeah first pick of the of the of the second round so yeah let's see here Alex Smith says what was the score don't make us revisit it again but Raiders 30 Giants six uh Deb says Panthers won't pick QB so don't care about their pick they don't have their pick that went to that was part of the trade when they got the first overall pick this past year so that goes to the Bears the Bears have their pick Plus plus the Panthers pick so the Bears have all the ammo to get whatever quarterback they want assuming that the first overall pick is trade aable if it's not theirs uh Conor says look at the stats Al off he just needs that opportunity why do you think Green Bay got him they know Jordan love isn't the guy you could say why do you think the Giants got Tommy DeVito just because the guy's on a roster doesn't make him good all of a

sudden so yeah Alex says oh Alex is just we said about that and Deb's knowledge yet she forgot about that uh let's see here Alex says a lot of good QBs are coming out this year you know what I hear every goddamn year that serly every godamn year you know when I stop hearing that when the season's over oh this this this this crop of quarterbacks is not as good next year though next year there's 10 great quarterbacks coming out every [ __ ] year as they do I'm not I'm not so I'm not going to fall for any of this [ __ ] until we go ahead and watch the tape and do some actra research on these guys because the only year that we knew going ahead was going to be a [ __ ] year quarterback was two years ago when it was like you know Malik Willis and Kenny picket and yeah rth how Alex Smith or are you just in Alex Smith I don't think he is the Alex Smith no I'm going to doubt that it's probably a popular name I had to guess there's a good amount of Alex smiths in the world it probably is see my dad say yeah Lis was a second round pick Alex Smith says the Cardinals are tanking good they should be tanking you know who else should be tanking us tank away Bears tank tank tank tank tank it's just it's got to get done because again guys we have nothing to gain that's where we're at we have nothing to gain whatsoever at this point all it is about getting young

players this is about getting young players a chance to you know go ahead and get some extra you know time on the field and that's it you know getting our Corner some more time getting uh you know guys like Mike and mcfat and extra time this is uh a chance to get you know for us to take a look at McKenna and go okay is this the guy we want to keep as part of this do we want to build around this guy like that's that's where we're at like that's legit all that's left this

season yeah so you know call me that's where that's where I'm at unless you guys can think of another good reason to watch this

let's see what we have in the field let's see what talent we want to keep to keep them like moving forward yeah let's get rid of the rest let's start training up and training out yep gu well part of the problem we into is we have no money so it's kind of like hard to do it and talk about trading out like nobody wants our players they

suck all them suck you know it's dangerous that I'm for train but I found I found a good video that I think sums up my thoughts in the rest of the season oh

geez oh yes that's where I'm at it's tank time tank tank tank it's time to

tank uh let's see Alex says Arizona is one and seven now yeah they are but Kyrie's going to come back Kyrie Murray is going to come back guys and when he comes back huh Kyler Murray sorry Kyler Kyler Mur Kyrie Irving whatever Kye mixing professional athletes with with with issues like you know playing for their team um but when he comes back they're going to win some games they're not going to be one of this is a good coach team this is a team with a defense that's been playing decent for times but like us they have no offense they can't get [ __ ] going all of a sudden you put a halfway decent quarterback which is what Kyler Murray basically is he's a halfway decent quarterback he's not a great quarterback he's a halfway decent one you're gonna see this team start winning a better half halfway decent he's an average Quarterback he's an average Quarterback except yeah he's below average height yeah below average height above average Quarterback not he's he's the Mighty Mouse of quarterbacks um but you put him in there and all of a sudden they're going to start winning games I'm telling you right now like that that that's a team that's going to start winning games and he's he's gonna be back in the next week or two he's not he's not far from this I'm telling you so you know you look at had Tiny Tunes play

today look at the games they have going up though so they got the Falcons not a good team the Texans okay team team Rams not a good team Steelers okay team then they got Niners good team obviously but then they got the Bears not a good team and they got the Eagles okay good team hate to say it and they got the Seahawks who got their butts handed to them literally I feel like freaking the Ravens took a ginso knife to their left and right butt cheeks cut it off and handed it to the Seahawks that's how bad that game was I mean three of those are divisional games you're talking about but I'm just saying like it's they have either way like you say all right the Rams aren't that good of a team but once again it's a divisional game so let's say let's say they beat the Rams they beat the Cardinals and they beat one of their surprise team now they got four win huh yes caros with the Cardinal Rams the Bears and one of Team yeah now now they have now they have three more wins they're four and

13 we can beat that we can beat that we can do it we a we have a worse record we got this so yeah that's where we're at guys we're at rooting for our team to lose a sad sad but true all righty guys well tomorrow night we'll be back we're going to go over all with you guys all of the games for teams that don't suck um so even the ones that do suck I guess too what the hell so we'll give you guys a recap for all the games here from this week here um we'll be back on our usual schedule again uh now we still owe you guys also for those guys who are subscribers a uh the subscriber on episode Rob and I got Still Still to figure that out uh problem is I alluded before I got family in from out of town so scheduling things right now is a little difficult right now as it is Rob and I got to figure out how to do our pxs episode on Wednesday because I'll be in Disney Tuesday and Wednesday um so listen you live in Florida you live in Florida okay I'll be at the Animal Planet maybe I'll do the show 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with us each week as we lose and eventually those tears will turn into happy thoughts we talk about quarterbacks that we actually have a chance of getting in the draft because that's that's what this is all about at this point if you want to win that's how you win you win by losing I hate to say it but that's what's going to have to happen we need a quarterback quarterbacks don't just grow magically on trees okay no matter what the Patriots fans tell you College yes and if you want a good one this is what you have to do so let's let's let's we have to lose a little to win a little and like I said it's not even that not even a guarantee but we get nothing by winning the rest of the season so let's see what we got here okay we got a couple more comments but let's let's let's see here um Alex says Kyler Murray is the Cardinal franchise QB no point in bring him back now right well they have no QB remember they traded Josh dos to the Vikings who did play today by the way for the Vikings yeah I was actually pretty surprised he he had a decent a touchdown day it's almost like it's almost like you can put a quarterback in after a couple of days and let him throw the ball yeah it look at you guys Giants looking at you guys Giants yeah I I looked at that game H we have a backup quarterback things to make you go you can't let him throw the ball but yeah because he sucks we have dobs dobs is better than him I'm sorry and dobs isn't that good don't get me wrong that's not me saying that a professional backup yeah it's just it is what it is uh and we got life of TB D family and please let me know if I mispronounced that because I'm I I'm assuming that's how you pronounce that with the double A I want to make sure um but says new to the channel welcome welcome to the channel guys appreciate it welcome and I see kids in the pictures I'm sorry if they were listening to cursing we can't help ourselves right now we can't help ourselves uh but yeah guys again we'll see you guys 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