Giants sign LB Bobby Okereke and DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches & '23 NFL Free Agency Day 1 News & Rumors

Drew and Rob give you all the NFL News of the day. Giants sign LB Bobby Okereke and DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches. We lost Nick Gates to the Commanders. The NY Giants re-signed Matt Breida, Jamie Gillan & Casey Kreiter. We go over those moves along with all the NFL moves made today.

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welcome to two giant goofballs a New York Giants podcast are you a goofball that loves Giant football if so sit back and relax except you that person driving sit up and keep your eyes on the road your ears though can still listen as we talk about the team that both excites and frustrates us so much and and now here are your goofball hosts Drew and Rob

welcome fellow goofballs the two giant goofballs the New York Giants podcast I am Drew joined as always by Ami Arab let's go talk about some of those three

three about you Rob it's about you specifically according to our first comment of the day from Scott that Rob is a dream vote [Laughter] [Music] everybody in case people are listening on you know the podcast audio platforms and don't know I mean they're just missing out by not being part of the uh you know the the video platforms as well that we're on so yes yes Rob is apparently a Dreamboat folks

[Laughter] so appreciate everybody coming on with this there today today is the first day of legal tampering and how weird does that sound to say to start a free agency I don't know why the NFL does it this way ever I never have understood this but whatever that's what they call it the first day of legal tampering so we're allowed to talk to whoever we want we'll have to do a little wink wink nut judge to whoever we want at that point we just can't put pen to paper until Wednesday

yeah there's there's a whole lot of wink wink nudge going on over the last like eight hours or so is it actually nine hours or so I think the noon was the start of the previous time period technically here so before we get started folks a couple of quick announcements here as always sharing is caring please do go ahead and share the link out to everybody that you'd like to everybody think you might enjoy it at that point uh also feel free to join in the show so you can either leave a comment here on whatever platform you're on uh specifically we do see the comments that are left automatically here in our program on Facebook on YouTube and on Twitch uh also you can call into the show on the goofball hotline

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oh yes the free agent Frenzy yes there was a lot of money going around and a lot of that was previously owned by John Mara and Steve Tisch because yeah the Giants didn't make some moves today and a lot of Giants fans were getting really upset until a couple hours ago like oh my God what are we doing we're not doing anything we're sitting on our hands guys you don't make the first move in free agency he who buys first buys too expensive yes sure and because Corey comes in of YouTube going no my Broncos had the free agent frenzy Corey your Broncos didn't we're gonna get all into that here we are going to go ahead and start here with the Giants of course since we are at Giants podcast when we're done with that though we're going to give you guys literally every single move of significance here and some to be honest are kind of more minor moves even too but I'm gonna give you everything that I got written down here from the last few hours here and there's a whole lot to buckle up guys have your drink ready have your popcorn ready have a restroom nearby it's coming guys we just asked if you do call the goofball hotline please do not be in the restroom at that time or besides it's fine so first we have the linebacker position I gotta go over and originally I plan on going over for everything kind of position by position quarterback running back wide receiver Titan and so on and so forth but I gotta start with the big one here for the Giants

out of the Indianapolis Colts was signed by us here today not five times fast okay okay okay okay okay I'm sort of messing up there a little bit you get the gist so he's signed here for four years 40 million dollars 22 million dollars of it is guaranteed and before anybody else says it did we overpay probably we probably overpaid to be honest I think the Giants probably saw all of the different linebackers going off the board I think this is the one they wanted from the very get-go and they were getting a little nervous because they saw so many coming off the board they probably upped the previous offer they had from earlier in the day but here's a guy it literally faced the most targets of any linebacker in the NFL this past year 78. now on paper you go okay that's not so good if people are targeting him he's really bad against the pass right I mean it makes sense it's a hundred percent of sound theory if somebody thinks that are off the bat so no he held his own so he allowed negative 2.3 receptions over expected and 5.9 yards of Target I'm telling you watching a little bit of tape of having the chance to watch in the last hour or two on this guy I love watching the way he plays love it so this man BC sits in the defense constantly moves his leg around almost like you know they say with the line oh that's where the running back keep your legs go keep your legs going keep legs like you could be sitting still you want to still be kind of running in places you're waiting for the hole to open up this guy does that he's constantly moving and the second he sees where to go he just Jets there Jets this man yeah think fast be fast this McMahon definitely has been following Chad Powers he is fast he's very agile he's aware of where the quarterback's eyes are and where the umbrella was going this guy I've seen him break blocks off on tape now to go ahead and get a tackle even I mean this is guys this is this is exciting as a giant fan this is probably the best linebacker we've had since Antonio Pierce that said a lot that's how long it's been since we've had a guy at this caliper and I'll say this I think that Blake Martinez could have taken that title if he had been around a little longer but I do think this guy is better than Blake Martinez I do because I think he's better in coverage than Blake is so yeah as as John S Anderson walks in here with Drew's in love with linebacker how about Roberta listen I'm in a gentleman would have said full bloom love because like I said this was a position we needed so what's your name I think it's fantastic like you said this guy is always all over the ball he's always right there ready to move ready to run down anyone that gets in this way and I think it's a great asset for the Giants like you said we haven't had this kind of player on that live at wow no it's been it's been forever since we've had a linebacker that I can sit there and count on and I'm telling you this guy's gonna help so much in the Run game it's not even funny and he's been all over the defense too for these the Colts and that's one thing I think that they're gonna like he wasn't a Mike linebacker for a lot of his career a lot of his career is actually the will linebacker and he moved over this year especially because of injuries the man always had 300 tackles in the last two seasons that's fantastic like yeah sign me up sign me up so again do we pay too much for him probably we probably should have paid more I was thinking like eight million dollars for a guy like that based on what you see other guys signing for him we'll go over that a little later when we go over the linebackers but I'll take it I'll take it because this was a need and this was a move we had to make we had to improve this position

Drew and Roberto are both in love with linebacker who was a line Packer pick like he's got the little rose on there too but say tune in next week on The Bachelor so here's another interesting stat for you okay he had more um defensive stops than almost all of the linebackers we had last year combined so for those who aren't aware what a defensive stop is because that's kind of like one of those Advanced metric kind of weird stats so it's basically how successful play you were based on what down you were at and what percentage of The Yards left you gave up basically so like 45 if you gave up less than 45 percent of the Yards needed for a first down for example um if you gave up less than 60 percent of the Yards needed on a second down or if you stop them for no gain on third or fourth down that's a defensive stop so he had 75 defensive stops in 2022. tied for the 10th most amongst linebackers so the Giants all together had 87 as a linebacker group that was 19 fewer than any other defense in the entire league 19 viewer we're talking about 87 that means we're 80 percent of the second worst team that's how bad our linebackers were folks that's how bad like I I can't even get over how bad our linebackers were like this is tremendous guys seriously absolutely freaking tremendous so next gen stats ranked him as the fifth best off-ball linebacker in the entire NFL last season

it's fantastic yeah that's that's that's an upgrade and a half that is an upgrade and a half like that's like we just traded in an 89 Honda Civic for a Lamborghini guys

yeah we're paying 40 million dollars for it but it's a Lamborghini who gives a damn yeah that's where I'm at so driving like you stole it exactly so let's get on to our next moves we got here so next one is Sterling Shepard Chef is back back again Elizabeth injury you'll have this year

so he's back the betterment mineral the veteran minimum deal 1.1 million dollars to play this year the big thing is will he actually play this year not because I'd say well here's the thing though so he's supposedly he's gonna be ready for camp that's what they're saying that's what his people are telling the Giants but the big thing is you got fans flipping the hell out because he's taking up a roster spot and he'll get hurt again guys he doesn't take up a roster spot unless he makes the roster yeah he's a veteran minimum deal we cut him we cut him we lost nothing this is not a guy with guaranteed money so anybody who's thinking that chill the only way he makes his team is if he's healthy and he outplays the other people we have that could possibly play the position that's it no harm no foul no way this blows up I mean you know it's not like we have a lot of depth in that wide receiver spot so no take what you get no especially like we've talked about chat before him being like a player you know coach of the players if you all yeah like he's seen a Super Bowl he's the most veteran guy we have given the veteran deal let him coach of our young Talent like you don't think Wanda can learn from this guy oh yeah oh yeah like I said even just in general if he's a backup wide receiver that you put in there under obvious passing Place reading that clutch catch he's been clutch his whole career guys I'll take it as John as Anderson comes in with Shep and his grandpa Walker hobbling into camp but he's only making one million plus John you can't say grandpa to a guy who was like 30 years old we know your age Sean you told us this yeah I'm just saying he's he he's much younger than I am even you're much older than I am so therefore oh you could be his daddy that's how old you are what was it Daddy what does he do so next up at the wide receiver position here as John asked earlier lb locked wide receiver well the wide receiver position the big rumor is that Giants are supposed to be talking to the Broncos about jury duty but here's the thing I keep hearing it yeah nobody that I'm saying is legit is saying it though it's like random people on Twitter as if they're trying to start the rumor themselves so I don't want to sit there and say it's true but there are Rumblings of that I guess is probably the best way to word it yeah it's a good way yeah rumors aren't correct Rumor Has It Rumor Has It Drew has a Lamborghini of course I do it's a Hot Wheels leading the way oh pal pal Power Wheels um so next up we we did re-sign Wyatt Davis the guard um this guy's just a camp body guys I don't want him to go too much in we've been over the skies we've signed him and dropped him like three times I feel like he's a camp body if he gets him he makes the squad I'll be happy for him because it means he's turning his life around from stopping to be a jerk to all his coaches otherwise it is what it is um the other big ER free agent signing is I want to say huge because this is a backup guy a rotational piece we also did get a defensive tackle Rakeem Nunez Roches from the Tampa Bay Bucks started 10 games last season for them we signed him to a three-year deal so the big thing I like about him is that the guy who's got starting experience a guy that we can rotate in and guess what his specialty is in folks stopping the Run what could we not do last year something we can use so yeah we got a guy coming in whose specialty is what we've had trouble doing makes sense makes a lot of sense like this is the guy that literally you will probably see coming off the field during major passing plays that's what kind of guy he is but he's a guy you're gonna see in on run stop and I gotta actually a little story with Rakim here I met the guy actually once so the weird thing is I'll be honest and say I didn't know who the hell he was at first it wasn't until somebody else had told me who he was so I met him really nice guy really down to earth likes fishing we're we're a bit of knowledge there on him he likes fishing on he actually has an older truck he drives around just to go fishing with so he doesn't get that fish smell and all this stuff I don't blame him yeah so the guy was so for those who aren't aware of we've talked about this a little bit before I don't talk too much about my outside of podcast life too much here but I do work in an auto repair facility we'll call it that um and he came in and he said this is his fishing truck and I'm still like a fishing truck what do you have like a swimming truck a hunting how many trucks do you have and it wasn't like it's ending fancy or anything it's just what it was but he was I've done like humble as hell about it like he wasn't like trying to brag about he's like oh no I just don't want to get my good stuff dirty but I mean like seriously down to earth guy you couldn't help but like the guy just talking for five ten minutes I'm telling you right now he's gonna be a guy the Locker Room's gonna like to have he's a guy that's going to be um you know kind of that pump Em Up kind of guy in the sidelines as well you know kind of like John Ward we were talking about him the other day on how he is in that like that kind of guy I'm telling you right 150. yeah like the media is going to like this guy the fans are gonna like this guy and it's not gonna be because of his talent on the field as much as his personality as weird as it sounds to say that like I said he's going to be a good player he'll be a good good guy as far as a uh again a rotational piece won't be a starter but it'll be a guy that'll probably get a little bit of an internal fan base like the Sills Army maybe can move over to him you know that kind of that kind of move there um so what do you think on on getting him to Rob I think it's a smart move once again like where do we struggle all year what do teams do this they stuff the ball down and they'll be ran up on us non-stop we couldn't what do we average what up 120 rushing yards a game 130 rushing yards a game like that's it's not a good thing so when you got a positive player coming in here and a specialty is to stop the run he may not be there every day but he could actually help prove the players that better at the pass rush than just the rush yeah we got more comments from my dad logged in listening there hey Dad I love you um doesn't Judy have the same problem as slayden drafter receiver and I'm I'm with him on that um those who listen to us and enough to know that my whole theory on that just yeah draft a receiver or to get you Kobe Meyer he's the only wide receiver that I'm interested in this free agency class but I think he's going to be out of our price range so unless there's some voodoo magic going on with our salary cap I don't think we're getting them Stone will overpay for him yeah someone's gonna because there's not a lot of receivers out there same reason I say we're going to lose Laden because someone's going to overpay because there's not a lot of receivers out there so yeah um next up is going to be a few things that we're not gonna like for those that might be thinking we're home or it's just based on how we've been reacting to the first couple of moves here yeah here goes the Homer mentality out the window so yeah so the Giants are said to be interested in cornerback Trey herden of the Jaguars now remember that big play that uh Darius Slayton had in the Jags game the very first drive where he just like ran right down the sidelines for an easy touchdown it was right against him yeah it's exactly he was against this guy is not good like the Jaguars are basically purging all over their Corners this is not where we need to be getting help from unless their thought process is to have him as a depth piece because at least he has some starting you know experience but we already went over this we have enough depth pieces we need like legit Corners you know we need like two guys who can put on the field that won't embarrass themselves this guy embarrassed himself I'm good yeah I'm good I'd rather draft a guy than Go With It Go with this guy um I agreed yeah next move that's really going to tick me off ready for the really here we go let's let's get ready everybody just sit back in your chair relax put you put your tray in the upright position as we ride the Andrew Rance here because yeah we re-signed the Scottish hammer Jamie Gillen two years four million dollars can go to five million dollars with incentives and I could not be more pissed off about this move and it's weird like I never thought I'd see myself get so fired up over a goddamn punter I am fired up over the punter fired up like okay yes can he kick far yes he can kick far I guess that's one of the qualifications of being a punter obviously he can't kick it high he can't kick into a corner he's got one out of three the man can kick the ball very far right into the end zone that's not his job your job as a punter is to pin them deep in their own territory it's to go ahead and try the coffin corner is to go ahead and use the high hang time at that point to force them to fair catch the ball at the five yard line it is not to punt the ball out of the back of the goddamn end zone so listen I'll go to East Rutherford I'm in the talk we'll be all right yeah and that's what I keep on hearing too like okay so I've been on Facebook and these groups and everything non-stop all freaking you know day long since this happened and people were like yelling we're gonna couch him up we coached him last year didn't we like it's not like this is a guy we can look at on tape go they didn't coach him correctly we got this we can fix this guy we were the ones who were coaching him

so what's going to be some magical football of a sudden that he's gonna learn to punt learn to be coached better ah bringing Scottish coach we got Chris King TV I like Gillum he has a leg listen he's got two legs but he doesn't use them right that's the problem he's still she's still doing rugby and is he a legitimate punter in this league you know if he actually was young enough where he could have gone back and gone to school and learned better I mean like punting school like go to college you know and gotten into a younger but we're I want to see where we win now like I don't want to go that crazy because it sets expectations for you know you guys as giant fans what to expect this year but we're in improved now we're in don't embarrass us now we don't need to punter who holds onto the ball so long that the the punts are getting blocked or that he's fumbling the ball and trying to pick it up and re-punt it and stuff I was just it's like I don't know I just I never dislike to punch her so much in my life I really haven't and it's it's it's weird I know there's other positions that I'm more worried about than that yeah I'm with you and listen I wasn't worried about this position because I thought we were just gonna drop him like a rock and get somebody else my biggest hope is there's like no guaranteed money in this and we can go in punt uh put them out of here yeah draft a punter to pun him out of here okay or he ends up in the back of the end zone like Jimmy Hoffa and all the punts he did last year this yeah uh Chris uh King Chris the TV also says gotta uh take Z flowers first round in Darius Rush second uh how you all feel about that you know I really think it depends on what happens the rest of the free agency uh we're probably actually gonna go ahead and do a uh a mock draft here on Friday post you know all the decisions I made the next couple of days because I think it'll be interesting how that changes it but I don't know like I said it's just I think we need I think as of right now if I had to pick now I'd be happy if two of the four quality picks and again the quality picks a day one day two picks wide receiver corner and I can even probably throw an interior offensive lineman based on how everything's going so yeah that that's where I'm going with there uh King Chris TBR says Rd line pissed me off more than a Gilman honestly listen if you're talking about um the the lack of death we have from last year I'm with you on math but they're fixing it that's what I guess where I don't get upset about that is because Joe Sheen recognized that immediately went out and assigned a guy for depth you know and and vocally said hey we need to improve the depth of this defensive line so I'm not upset about that area I'm not worried about that area I'm worried when I had a guy who just to me was not a very good punter and the first day of free agency

take our money

here's four million wow yeah like did you guys look at options ah we got Corey says do you guys think DJ takes a step back this year or continues to improve Corey it depends on what weapons he put around

correctly if I'm wrong Rob I know you like him more than I do but 100 I mean he's not even physically he made a lot of difference a lot of mental choices he made he was definitely you could tell he was better Coach this past year he's going to continue to improve the thing is does Barkley stay healthy that's going to change how he plays do we pick up some wide receivers in this draft do we get some free agent wide receivers for it puts him depth in that struggle and position when Slayton and Richard James were your leaders in the year that's a problem like nothing against these guys but these are your wife four wide fives these shouldn't be nowhere near the wide one Mark or even the Y2 so that makes a big difference and like I said um you also have to make sure that Shaq stays healthy like you gotta see if that yeah he's not on the contract to you either so you gotta see how he plays like if he comes out a place like he did last year like it's going to change how Daniel uh Jones throws the ball yeah no definitely um a couple other moves we have with giants organ one also is an ex-giant um Casey Kreider The Long Snapper is back in a one-year deal listen I haven't heard his name once during the season when you're a Long Snapper that's the key you did a good job if nobody's heard your name you've done a good job you want to be you want to be in the background yeah if we're talking about you something went bad um so yeah I'm good with that resigning there that's a snapback we also lost we're also lost somebody okay Nick Gates guys Nick Gates that one hurt oh my god seriously this one this one bothered me a little bit here and it bothered me until he heard how much money he was getting from the Commanders they paid him three years 16 and a half million dollars I can't be mad at him but yeah I thought we'd get them for like two and a half a year which would have been like three years seven million so yeah obviously somebody saw something in a value-wise and had some money to spend uh and like I said it's the DC Commander so we'll still see Nick Cage twice a year guys because there's a little reunion rumor is the Giants only offered him a minimum deal and gave him no guarantee to start they wanted him to still play that kind of role like he's been playing of you play wherever we need somebody basically um so he went somewhere where he can be a true Center where he got more money um yeah I I think it's a good move for Gates I'll do it that way if I take my my giant fan cap off for a minute a minute and go what was best for Gates this was a a group of you know uh team that believed in him that had a spot for him and offered him a lot of money yeah go for it Nick no no hard feelings there whatsoever can't be mad no can't be mad at all except for the commanders for overpaying yeah so I mean vocally talk about how you want to be giant but with everything that was going on I just I didn't that was one that I kind of knew were probably losing this year I was hoping not but I was hoping like it was you're gonna have to pay the guy because he is good and he like yeah he came off this crazy injury but yeah he's quite like he hasn't missed the beat so yeah commanders gotta go pick up so we got a couple more Giants related questions and then guys we're gonna go right into after these questions um going into all the news from the NFL because we have like I only have five pages of signings yeah it's gonna be a long list so we're gonna go through this kind of quick um Jonathan uh and John Anderson he says get wide receiver Jonathan Mingo hand size 10 and 3 8. I mean I'll say this it's more than just what how big your hands are it's how the size doesn't always matter it's what you do with those hands that's what matters hold up in my dad that's kind of creepy so that's the reason why change teams often they are seldom young and good they learn their craft over the years yeah and he's right I mean that's how many times you see the old you know 35 year old punter that still hits that corner right or still gets that good hang time um but yeah I mean that's that's true and again when you got a guy who's was you know learning never played in high school or as a kid or college just all of a sudden just picked up a football randomly because they were at a rugby balls at the sporting goods store I don't know whatever the story was I don't know that might not be how he learned it I don't know okay I can't confirm uh my dad also comes in with we need a true Center and yeah we do we need a true Center um who that's going to be I don't know yet but we need a new we need a true one we do have a couple options to go over when we talk about the rest of the free agency though um King Chris TV are are feel like we need stronger edges also we couldn't set the edge for [ __ ] last year listen I'll say that's part of it because we were out for rushing the quarterback but part of it also was you could set the edge all you want if you'd have a linebacker to follow up and actually tackle the running back behind that edge you're done we didn't have that that's what we have now we have that linebacker oh yes Cory what free agent wide receiver would you like to add if we're going free agent the only one that I'm personally interested in like I said is going to be just just Jacoby Meyer it's gonna be way out of our price range personally um you know keeping here Hardman obviously out of Kansas City um I'm not too big a fan of him just because he couldn't make it with Patrick Mahomes as a guy as like a first overall receiver that's always kind of scary I mean Drew and I had this question already but I'm also a fan of Assad I think for the cost you have paid for him I think it had a lot of depth yeah listen I will cheat with him at the right price yeah I just don't think he's number one I think he's number two no oh yeah that's what I said I think that's understanding I think Jacoby Meyer is the one guy who can be a number one Ken and I'm not saying he is yet but he has that potential to become one um King Chris TV Barkley Health depends heavily on the o-line domain I mean that's that's definitely true if you're not wrong you know stop them getting hit as often that'll help uh Corey I I like your tight end Daniel also seemed like he had potential before he went out with that eye injury uh yeah uh Dana Bellinger is is a big time you know he surprised a lot of guys yeah big time rookie rookie guy for us there that just came out of nowhere as a Dependable option and I think he's going to be paired with a second tight end and you're gonna see a lot of double tight end sets we've been talking about that Mike iseki is a guy I want um I'm still big on that he hasn't signed yet so we'll see what happens there um uh King Chris TV yeah the overpaid he low-key got bullied in the Run game I think he was talking about Nick Gates as my dad says Gates was a guard Learning Center listen the thing with Nick Gates is and he says it himself he's not the best football player he gets in people's heads that's what it pulls down to um Jonas Anderson that's not what she said King Chris TV true my dad goes if the best receiver when it's our pick is a tight end don't reach for a wideout I'm with you on that but I don't really don't want to pick a tight end of the first round that doesn't tend to work out very well the history of first round tight ends is not good uh King Chris TV how do you feel about a Cyrus Taurus um first round and wide receiver uh Jayden Reed in the third you know I got to look up Reed uh I'm okay with getting a guard in the elite first like that to shore up the interior part of the offense though so that's definitely an option um John S Anderson kaseki is coming mark my words listen I don't know who this Mark is but I need to bring your words already okay yeah

so let's get into all the rest of the moves in the NFL here because like I said guys we have a lot we really do um so first we're gonna go position by position for you guys because it gives you a good rundown of not only who's gone but what's left as well if you could do that internally as we're going through um it's their first quarterback and I'd be remiss to not mention that before I get to the signings Brock Purdy had a successful surgery repairs UCL on Saturday um so there we go there um also no Rogers news to give you guys for the Jets yet um but Garrett Wilson keeps tweeting cryptically so he's either messing with everybody or he actually knows it's going to happen so I don't know which one I can picture either one he's got that kind of stuff yeah he likes doing that kind of stuff uh Deshawn Watson restructured his DLC 36 million dollars against the cap for the uh uh for the the Browns there Jimmy G goes to the Raiders so Derek Carr they boot him out of town and they get Jimmy G that's replacing average to an average huh yeah I really don't get that you went faced with average who stays healthy to average who can't be healthy I mean and I think they are in Vegas I mean they are in Vegas and kimchi likes his uh Vegas atmosphere for you all no I I really I really think this is this was a Josh McDaniel move because remember Josh but Daniel was the OC in New England when Jimmy G was there too yeah so I think that's what this move is but oh my God it's like this is why you don't give Josh McDaniel the Reigns to a franchise did we not learn anything from Jennifer folks did we not remember the Denver everyone forgot about Denver oh gosh uh let's see here we got Mike White the former jet quarterback headed to the Dolphins two years up to 16 million dollars can you imagine that guy playing on that offense oh my God the first time that Tua gets hurt and he goes in you're gonna see like seven touchdowns and eight interceptions for like 500 yards it's gonna be like like you saw what kind of numbers he put up with the Jets yeah the last couple of years it's not like he's had amazing talent around him on the Jets look at me wrong like they're they're not bad set up but their offensive line has issues you know they have one really good receiver the rest of them are kind of you know so so yeah so now you're giving him like two amazing receivers and one of the best left tackles in all football I mean like yeah that's gonna be interesting um backup QB Jared Stidham head to the Broncos was a Raider last year uh he's the guy that the bench Derek Carr to put in they thought a lot of him apparently uh Case Keenum back with the Texans one year 6.25 million dollars Sam darnold gets more life in the NFL he goes off to the 49ers to be their third string quarterback which just sounds weird yeah like why would you not try to get as a backup quarterback unless they know something we don't know like his Trail Lance getting traded or something no something's weird there like I said something's a little weird to me something's wrong in in in San Francisco there um Chargers resigned backup Easton stick one year 1.8 billion dollars ironic thing was uh for those of you guys out there that are fans of the Entertainer that we had on here a couple weeks ago uh he had somebody asking him about a player and it was a fake player it was actually a porn star's name and they were all cracking up in the comments section and everything and he's like okay what's no one else is on I'm like um Eastern stick just got signed I promise it's not a poor name [Applause] uh let's see here the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are rumored to be interested in Baker Mayfield or Jacoby Brissette um I mean they have Kyle trash starting so yeah having a guy with some experience to be either the backup or challenge him for the job and have an actual battle not a bad move I'd go big conversely of those two uh I think we know what Jacobi is right now Baker looked really bad in Carolina well he looks really good in LA with the Rams so we'll see uh the Vikings entered contract talks with Kirk Cousins on an extension nothing being eminent whatsoever Panthers also rumored to be willing to trade Matt Corral after you know he's had one year to sit on the Golden Corral yeah yes uh running back news former Viking and Bronco running back Mike Boone assigned with the Texans two years 3.1 million dollars Vikings also rumored to be considering trading Delvin cook Austin Eckler also requested permission to seek trade from the Chargers after contract talks breakdown so he got two of the most exciting running backs in the league potentially moving this off season that means yeah that's kind of big news I mean Devin cook is a little I feel like slowing down he's kind of lost the step but Austin Eckler like that's yeah if you have a past first offense like if you like we're talking about Miami vinegar imagine him on Miami imagine that one that would gotta change to the AFC East yeah oh yeah that'd be pretty big there um we also got Jamal Williams um the TD machine who scored I think like 17 touchdowns against us when the Lions came into town being shown interest by not just the Lions to resign there but also the bills Bengals and jets but I'm not eminent yet yeah um fullback news we actually had a fullback news Keith Smith got re-signed by the Atlanta Falcons uh wide receiver news we have none nobody has signed a wide receiver yet of all the moves and what does that Tell You Folks people don't overpay no it's not just that it's a bad market and no one knows what to pay because of that yeah like look at last year what Christian Kirk made with a little over 20 million dollars a year if he's worth 20 what is Jacoby Meyer worth what did Juju Smith Schuster worth yeah that's uh that's yeah hmm that's I'm telling you that when the first Domino drops and the first guy signs you're gonna start seeing science Einstein signs of water and sharks are gonna come out to attack exactly because then they'll be like they'll be a litmus test they'll be there'll be a uh you know a viable thing to you know say okay well this guy made this therefore this guy's worth that you know so I don't I think any of them are really going to be a uh you know a big time contract even though they're hearing the rumors now obj wants 20 million dollars I don't think you're getting that ubj I think you're getting 10 15. it's my dad Chimes you have a Kirk had a good year he did have a good year listen I still don't think it was a 20 million dollar a year but he had a better year than I expected that's for damn sure let's see Titan wise former Jag Josh Oliver goes to the Vikings three years 21 million dollars purely a run blocking tight end he's like their Howard cross basically you never see him with his with the ball in his hands he's just a boy pretty much like an extra tackle um Patriots also traded former Titan jonu Smith to the Falcons for a seventh round pick never worked out for the from the two years he was in New England guy was doing like 450 yards a game I'm sorry game a season um with the Titans goes to the the Patriots that's like 200. um Juwan Johnson also re-signed with the Saints two years 12 million dollars former Bronco Andrew Beck signs with the Texans uh mostly used as a blocker even played some fullback special team or what he has four team catches in Four Seasons so yeah that's the guy you're not gonna hear very often because that's like the unsung heroes of the team basically um yeah so it looks like we got broke down the weapons already we're already onto the offensive line we are moving here look at this Trucking right along today this Trucking I got like uh I was thinking I got a Whatchamacallit A Grateful Dead on my head

feel like I should be smoking a bunch or having some mushrooms now so tackle former Chief right tackle Andrew Wiley is now a commander three-year 24 million dollars so the Commander's putting some money in that offensive line getting Nick Gates getting Andrew Wiley and talk about not good money like Andrew Wiley was the we talked about him a couple times during the postseason he was the weak point of that offensive line that's who he decided to get like okay you didn't have to pay him like top top money but you're still paying eight billion dollars a year uh former Jack Juwan Taylor signs with the Chiefs four years 80 million dollars did they say don't be mad when our divisional players make bonehead moves sorry oh listen I'm not mad at him um you make some more bone-headed moves yeah um so yes they they said they signed Juwan um Taylor from the Jaguars for four years 80 million dollars in the Chiefs before they made that move the chiefs were rumored to be talking to the Texans about a trade for Laramie Tunstall that would be interesting so uh this move though pretty much says that's not going to happen now it also says that Orlando Brown are probably gonna play somewhere else their formal left tackle because they're saying that Taylor's even move because he played right tackle in Jacksonville he will be moved to left tackle now in Kansas City so yeah well you know people kind of worried about that but Andrew of the intro I mean uh Orlando Brown moved from right Taco left Taco they went to Kansas City that worked out well for them it's yeah not impossible uh it's not as easy as some people think but it's also not as difficult as other things so uh let's see we got Broncos um signed former 49er Mike mcglinchy uh five years 87 million dollars we got some big contracts here for these tackles down here yeah um Andrew Dillard leaves the Eagles for the Titans three years 29 million dollars uh Cardinals resigned Kelvin Beacham for a two-year contract I haven't heard the amount on it yet but I would not imagine a lot because he's getting pretty well up there and he's not a bad player but he's not a great player either um onto the guards like a glass of water yeah all right so we got um Ben Powers from the Ravens goes to the Broncos four years 52 million dollars so that's second Bronco offensive line we're talking now so Mike bucklinchey and Ben Powers um yeah what does that tell you that Sean Payton thinks the offensive line was the problem you don't eat it you don't need to be you know a fortune teller or a prognosticator like that to see what's going on when you're signing people specifically for one group that tells you you think that group is a problem yeah I mean not that it wasn't a problem that whole team was a dubs fire last year it was bad um but yeah I mean Ben Powers literally before this year was a guy who could barely hold on to a starting job so yeah that's that's I think they bought a little too high uh former Titan Nate Davis went to the Bears three years 30 million dollars a good move for them because they have offensive line issues big time now he didn't have a great year last year but he's been a consistent average guard for most of his career so when do you got crud average he was good as but say when you guys d-minus that b sounds pretty damn good yeah and I'll say this as well when I say that we would have taken him and he would have started for us in a heartbeat so I'm not trying to embarrass in that regardless of glass houses we're definitely at a glass house and especially when you got a quarterback Young quarterback over there that you want to see what he could do he can't be running for his life yep need him off his backside in order to go ahead and see what he's got um Shaq Masons rumor to be cut by the Bucks soon they've been trying to find a trade partner for him hasn't been working out very well for them former Cowboy Connor McGovern to the bills three years 23 million dollars oh my God Chris Lindstrom resigns with the Falcons this is the big one five years 105 million dollars the highest rated player last season in the entire league by PFF that's how good he was while he has taken the crown as best guard in the entire game and you know what he's also taking the crown of highest paid guard in the whole game yeah so yeah I guess the two go hand in hand uh Brown's resigned Ethan postek we talked about him as being probably the best center on the market we've talked about him all saying he'd probably get re-signed by the Browns he did three years 18 million dollars Jason Kelsey announced he will be playing in 2023 so good job Eagles you got one player that's that she's still gonna be with you that's the only guy you're gonna most of your team is like leaving you're gonna find out more about that we get to the defense uh Panthers resigned Bradley Bozeman three years 18 million dollars pro bowler Ryan Kelly of the Colts is rumored to be in the training block so Giants fans if you guys want a legit Center there's your option right there there's your option um we're on to the defense so defensive one we're gonna start off here with Javon Hargrave went to the went from the Eagles to the 49ers four years 84 million dollars

told you Eagles losing some players here Duron Payne also this weekend resigned with the commanders four years 90 million dollars now I mentioned those two on purpose four years 84 million dollars do the math here 21 million dollars a year okay four years 90 million dollars that's 22 and a half million dollars a year what does it tell you folks when we resign sexy dexie Dexter Lawrence he's gonna need some money he's gonna get paid like 25 million dollars a year without telling you right now if he's as good as he was this past year next season that's where the negotiations are going to start now

a lot of money so next we have David onyamato goes from the Saints to the Falcons three years 35 million dollars also we got some rumors here Browns viewed as the favorites to sign Draymond Jones from the Broncos Shelby Harris is also rumored to be on the chopping block they've been trying to find a trade parker still can't find one so he's this close to getting cut Clay is Campbell released by the Ravens you know who would have thought at 57 years old he'd be cut by the Ravens [Laughter] he's like 38 years old so I mean this is a guy that honestly I could see the Giants even bring you know if they really want to get some d-line dip because he did work keep my wink for a couple years so if he got that connection listen you want to bring in a veteran maybe hopefully some of the young guys like Dexter learned something because as good as Dex is you know we can learn um Isaiah bugs re-signs with the Lions two years up to six million dollars he's got a rotational piece guy so you know that's probably what I expected to get her to hear on a lot of these kind of guys is that kind of money there um you know what we have one here that I'm gonna be honest with you folks I'm not going to be able to pronounce this name I'm not so if you're listening on podcast I'm going to apologize ahead of time because you're not going to see this because I have a rule that I never ever ever want to go ahead and botch someone's name so here you go guys we'll call them tonex I'm assuming that's how you pronounce the first name resigns with the Saints two years five million dollars and yes that's how I write my notes folks so we got Hassan Ridgeway signs with the Texans one year four million dollars Kevin Gibbons resigns with the Niners no numbers have been given on to Edge Texans went ahead and got um Chase winovich one year 2.7 million dollars now you probably remember him you got signed you could try drafted by the Patriots had 11 sacks the first two years not a bad you know backup Edge rusher kind of piece well he's had one sack in the last two years

he he fell refill fast and hard our old friend Lorenzo Carter resigns with the Falcons two years nine million dollars uh also Cowboys are interested apparently in bringing back um Dante Fowler Jr though nothing's been finalized there on to the linebackers and I feel like this is half the signings today linebackers we had so many linebackers it's we talked about this all leading up to when the free agency started and we said you know this is going to be a year where you're going to see a lot of linebackers go the numbers probably won't be so high because there's so many of them and I'll tell you this guys up front we signed the second biggest deal linebacker-wise when we got Bobby okay so the bigger deal was tremaid Edmund so a lot of you giant fans wanted I did not want them and you know what's interesting was when I looked up Bobby on you know trying to get a little more film on him before we started the show I saw a guy who runs embarrassed I said I'm not a bears I'm sorry a uh um a Bills fan page and he was comparing Bobby okay and trayman Evans and saying this guy be the perfect replacement for treatment because he knew we weren't going to keep him so he goes to the Bears four years 72 million dollars largest four-year four-year deal ever for an off-ball linebacker damn and you would think the Bears are set at the linebacker position nope nope TJ Edwards to the Bears three years 19.5 million dollars first report reported deal coming out of the tampering period and from what I heard he's a Chicago guy I didn't look it up to verify that but somebody told me that he's a Chicago guy and he they think he took kind of a you know a pay cut to go play for his home team because that's a lot less money than I expected a lot less I mean he's getting all the deep dish pizzas uh that he wants so unless we went over this they don't actually eat deep dish in Chicago that's that's a tourist thing they eat the thin crust Detroit does the deep dish yeah um Bengals resigned Jermaine Pratt three years 21 million dollars former Titan David long gets signed to the Dolphins two years 11 million dollars Broncos re-signed Alex Singleton three years 18 million dollars right before we went on the news was that the Vikings former Viking Eric Hendricks signed with the San Diego Chargers now the interesting thing there to me is I haven't heard of Drew tranquil anywhere yet

part of me wonders are we gonna get Drew tranquil along with Bobby okay and get both of our off-ball linebackers because Drew could actually be moved out to be an edge rusher in certain place as well I still think he's the guy that look at as a possibility for the Giants to sign maybe I'm just hoping because that's the guy I wanted from the get-go so Matt Milano with the Bears also aggressive extension um Brownstein um okay here's another one we got another name I'm gonna have trouble pronouncing here I really shouldn't practice some of these names there's so many so many names so many no as Jonas Anderson said what the hell was that Roberto kitty cat because there was a tail going across your screen uh I was Adonis how's the dog I don't think he had um yeah I don't think he I don't think he had a um you know a cat I was like you get a cat and I wasn't aware I was thinking of myself but I was just rolling with the punches here so Brown design uh I'm hoping I'm pronouncing that right here uh probably not though three years 19 million dollars five Stacks last season with Houston Lions resigned Alex and zeloni three years 18.75 million dollars 17 game starter for them last year 125 tackles Jets re-signed Quincy Williams three years 18 million dollars commanders signed Cody Barton one year fully guaranteed 136 tackles with Seattle last season uh Dolphins re-signed Duke Riley two-year deal mostly special teamers are probably not for a lot of money also Cowboys rumored to be interested in Bobby Wagner which tells you right there the Leighton vanderesh probably is not going to be a cowboy next year unless something turns around [Laughter] so on to the corners there's usually four quarters we have more than four this time so four four stealer Cameron Sutton who I heard a lot of Giants fans saying they wanted to be our CV2 went to the Lions three years 33 million dollars Jonathan Jones returned to the Patriots on a two-year 20 million dollar deal Steelers get Patrick Peterson the Ageless wonder who's now 57 years old going into his 37th season now he's like 32 or 33. um two-year deal 24 million dollars bucks resigned Jamil Dean who had been a perfect fit for our defense four years 52 million dollars Brandon uh Ferguson signs with the Raiders uh part-time starter for the Colts last season no numbers given uh commanders claimed former Viking Cameron uh Dantzler um so they could take on his 2.9 Million Dollar number this year now over the weekend the big news corner-wise genuine Ramsey was traded to the Dolphins for a third round pick and Hunter long the tight end not a bad deal for the Dolphins if Jalen Ramsey goes back to his old self I still think he's lost a step potentially but we'll see I could be wrong I've been wrong before it could also be that he didn't have some of the weapons around him on defense he's used to having yeah yeah definitely um safety wise Falcons signed Jesse Bates four-year 64 million dollars fourth highest paid safety in the NFL now Von Bell goes to the Panthers rumors seven and a half average annual salary that's both the safeties from this the Cincinnati Bengals gone it's uh that's rough it's very rough that's well they gotta make they gotta make some room to pay bro and Chase yeah that this is this is what happens when you win a lot you lose some of your players because people also want to win and they look at your players yes so that's what's gonna happen so yeah uh the cost of winning 49ers over the weekends resigned to Sean uh I'm sorry to Sean uh Gibson uh one year 2.9 Million Dollars MJ Stewart resigns with the Texans two years six million dollars Marcus Epps leaves the Eagles signs Raiders two years 12 million dollars another Eagle gone I'll say like half their defense gonna be gone by the time this whole thing goes on pretty much yeah Jets re-sign Greg zero line one year two million dollars Falcons resigned Bradley pinion their punter three years 8.65 million dollars we did it folks we did it made it through we made it through oh let's go Steve wiser let's go to the comments listen uh listen I would love to uh break open unfortunately this bud is empty

um so yeah so we got let's see the rest of the comments here where we end off here here we go okay we got next one up is here we go nope we could do that one too we did my okay

there we go that dream on Jones deal that just went through so good good job Corey letting us know going on there King Chris TV yeah check read out he's a dog we'll do um X jet till Purdy back for John Anderson I'm guessing that is a Sam darnold comment there um King Chris TV I think Miami goes after Malik cooker second round it's possible that's for sure um yeah my dad already said that we'd already said that one there he said that the star the star wide receiver pay scale is north to 20 million dollars now I don't disagree there as I haven't oh Charlie Horse

yeah we've talked about it in previous episodes that it's hard for us to say like hey we gotta pay this receiver 18 million but that's that's pretty much to go in rate like any words on T Higgins where they're gonna pay this guy I think I paid at 25 million yeah like

craziness but that's the market and then yeah the cash is going to go up in the next couple years and that's what players are going to get paid I mean it's the name of the game yep that's the name pay pay Charlie Horse I even drink there and not a Budweiser let's see here we got quickest way to improve our your QB is keeping them upright yeah that's damn straight that is you know if you can actually see the field he can actually do something with the field um yeah so we got what would

Campbell want to play on G-Men get him he's worth it for a year and that's all he would be probably is one years like I said he's like 38 years old we already said that was the kitty cat comment there Drew and okira K would go crazy is that over the Drew tranquil and I'm wondering are you saying you go crazy in a good way or a bad way because you have to share some of the spotlight but AG says Peterson needs to play in his own scheme yeah he's like 32-33 is this as a corner so yeah Jonas Anderson any word yet on Leonard Williams taking pay cut what do you think they'll do with them um I think they're gonna extend them personally yeah they're probably gonna cut it down extend them get more money over to um a period of time and then yeah or sadly cap finally I think what you're going to end up seeing is I think you're gonna see um like a three-year deal with him um probably more along the lines of like you know 60 million dollars which sounds like a lot for a tackle but keep in mind folks his number is like 36 million dollars this year so yeah if you can get it down it's only 20 million dollars and save yourself 16 million dollars and you know to guarantee him like two more years in the league like that I think it's something you can see both both sides taken my dad says the Eagles have the draft picks to replenish their defense they do but there's no guaranteed draft picks work that's the beauty of it Jonathan Sanderson LMFAO Charlie Horse listen my whole leg is tightened up Sean right now it's not funny hysterical seriously I can feel my whole hamstring right now like like just like it's a rock right now like on my katarius Tony right now oh my God so yeah so like I said we got a lot of stuff to go a lot of stuff that happened here today we got a lot more stuff coming guys because this is just day one just day one so I'm gonna check real quick see if we got any more big news before we sign off here for the day because yeah stuff's always going down guys it's just it's crazy right now stuff is going like every two minutes something else is going down uh let's see here so yeah we already said charges good and Eric uh Kendricks that's that's more verified because I just seen one personal clip before it came on Broncos sign d-line Zach Allen Jameis Winston is officially going to be staying with the um New Orleans Saints which is kind of weird it's giving me a backup I guess but Texans expected to sign defensive back Jimmy Ward from the 49ers Vikings to sign defensive end Marcus Davenport yeah that was one of the guys that I heard people saying the Giants might be interested in I didn't see it personally yeah uh but yeah he got a one-year deal for 13 million dollars with the Vikings see if he can do something with them at that point since he didn't do much rolling in you know New Orleans uh let's see here we got Falcons are going to be signing Kaden Ellis uh linebacker let's see here what else we got bills resigned Hunter Sam Martin I guess the pun of God is not coming yeah uh there we go uh let's see Bears defensive lineman Demarcus Walker agreed to a deal uh yeah that's that's that's going to be a a pretty decent sized deal probably I didn't hear the numbers on the end I'm looking for right now um they expected him to get about seven million dollars for three years um so yeah I haven't heard of that one yet let's see Isaiah Rodriguez is here in the chat saying breaking news Devante asked for a trade which Devonte we talked about Isaiah

Adams I was thinking Adams yeah but I haven't heard anything on that yet

so yeah I mean I've heard a lot of rumors people saying that why would he want to go play with Jimmy G when he can go ahead and play with you know a better quarterback but I mean he wanted to play with Derek Carr who's an average Quarterback so why would you not want to play with Jimmy G necessarily I don't know we'll see because Tim McGraw voice yeah I mean yeah there's a college thing so yeah I mean like I said we got some big stuff here guys today as a giant fan I'm excited just off the linebacker move alone because that's been the move that we had to have for how many years now we finally have a good linebacker now let's see what happens because now we're letting all the all the shoes drop see what else is out there and I'm telling this guys Joe Shane is not going to rush to make a move because they have a need he's not no he's going to go ahead and make the move when he has to make the move because he sees the right contract with the right player that's what he's gonna do he's not the guy who's going to rush to make a deal because people are saying he has to he'll be patient same as he was today yeah so if you guys see moves not being made that you really want being made goose frappa who's forever yeah who's rubber

because the moves will happen same as they happen today it's just gonna take time it's got to be the right contract it's got to be the right player folks so we'll be back with you guys again tomorrow so we'll be back on again nine o'clock that's that's our plan basically the next three days actually the next two days all right because three days included today we're gonna be here giving you guys all the news so we'll be here again nine o'clock tomorrow give you guys the full rundown and everything that happened here on Tuesday day two of the free agent frenzy yeah [Music]

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yeah so like I said we'll be continuing doing it till Tuesday we'll be continuing Wednesday hopefully we'll have some more things to celebrate maybe a wide receiver maybe a Lineback I said I'm in a linebacker maybe a lineman maybe a cornerback you know some of the other holes get filled because I'm a big fan and I don't want to go into the draft with a need because when you go into the drive without a need you can literally pick the best available player that's what you want to do you want to pick the best not the best for your needs yeah so let's hope that's the case you think the best available at the position that you're at and they go from there and build around that exactly you just because that's what you want you want just ball players you want guys who were skilled you don't want to go oh I need a receiver who's the best receiver that's how you reach that's how you get something that's less than what you should have gotten that's when you kick yourself in the butt later on you know when you don't get Micah Parsons for example where we're Sean Slater because you really wanted that wide receiver how'd that work at Darius Tony of course ACL yeah just saying that's how this works so again guys thank you very much for eliciting in today we appreciate you taking the time to listen to what these goofballs have to say uh again drop us a line here in the comments there if you have any thoughts or anything you want us to cover the next one there I would appreciate you guys listening in here with these goofballs I have to say and as always giant fans

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